Controllers and Music services

HelloMy question is:What determines the order in which the speakers appear after I group them? I have 6 connects with 4 speakers so 24 speakers total. So in the room called kitchen I have 4 speakers in the room called bedroom I have 4 speakers etc. 6 rooms x 4 speakers... When I start with kitchen, then add bedroom, then living room the sonos S1 app ignores the order I choose them in. So when I go to adjust the volume the kitchen will appear towards the middle of the speaker order even though I want it to appear first. Meanwhile the office will be at the top of the order even though I want it to appear last, (for example.) I have tried alphabetical order, numerical order, rebooting each device in the order I want them in, asking s1 to please respect the order I choose, moving the connect boxes from one amp to another, bringing them closer and further from the router, using optical cables on some of them and not others, I cannot figure out how S1 determines the order except -I know that

How hard is it for a company of this size to stay on top of iOS firmware updates? When iOS 17 was released and I purchased a new iPhone 15 Pro Max, the Sonos app wasn’t compatible, and TruePlay tuning was disabled—for what seemed like forever. Now we’re back to the same thing with iOS 17.1–after a lengthy beta cycle and plenty of time for Sonos to make adjustments to their app to be compatible way ahead of the firmware release date, here I am with two new ERA 300s to go with my Arc and sub, and I can’t tune them because the existing app on the App Store still isn’t compatible.  Sonos, have you gone to the review section of your app on the iPhone App Store, changed the sorting view from most relevant to most recent, and perused the thousands of one and two star reviews you have, along with the nearly infinite number of consumer complaints that continue to post day after day, month after month? If thousands of small fry app developers can keep up with the cycle of beta releases and relea

I am having trouble at a client location where Sirius XM radio stops playing without any warning.  This can happen if a device updates and can happen for unknown reasons.What I would like is a way to set a SONOS zone to a station and have it play continuously, forever, as long as it is able.  That means, if a source is interrupted or stopped for any reason, it would resume playing on its own.  It would repeatedly try to re-connect to the stream.  Since the looping playlist button is grayed out during station play, perhaps replace it with a persistent play button to effectively do the same thing and play forever.I have seen a lot of complaints about Sirius XM radio and even Spotify on these forums, and this is a simple feature SONOS could add to their devices that would band-aid this problem for everyone - if people have some reason why their stream is interrupted, it would auto-resume, perhaps with a 1 minute retry interval.Does SONOS read these forums and use them to build new feature

My Calm Radio stations stopped playing through the Sonos app this afternoon. They were working a few hours earlier. I thought I would delete and re-add the Calm Radio service in the app to see if this would resolve the issue,  and when I tried to add it again it had disappeared from the list of available services. I am a paid Calm customer and it is working through all other means, including the Calm Radio app and Roon. Does anyone know what's going on? [EDIT: A few minutes after I posted this a Sonos app notice  informed me “Calm Radio is experiencing a full outage” and it now appears as “down” on the Sonos status page. Oddly I am listening to Calm through Roon during this “full outage” and am having no issues playing stations through the Calm app.]

Hi,I have decided to update my system to s2 and run the compatibility check which reports my Connect cannot be updated. I decided to create a separate system for my PlayBase & Beam but getting response  that they are both incompatible. Please advise

Many threads are talking about the own internet streams one cannot define anymore due to the end of the ‘old’ TuneIn. One solution was to push those streams to the favorites.Ok, so far not so good.One question remain : how to edit the so called favorites if those internet streams are modified in one way or another?

As I understand, playing Tidal HiFi Plus through the Sonos app gives us max CD quality audio, up to 16-bit, 44.1 kH.But, when using the Tidal App on a Samsung Smart TV connected to a Sonos Amp over HDMI, what audio quality can then be passed through?Same question when having Tidal App on an Apple TV 4k with HDMI to the same Samsung TV and then HDMI to a Sonos Amp. With Tidal HiFi Plus, what quality can be passed through?Thank you.Per Dahlin

There is an “update now” button on my S2 Controller on my MacBook but I am having trouble updating it. I have not had issues in the past updating the app on my MacBook. I keep getting an error during the install process that says “Sonos Update Failed. An unexpected error occurred. Please try again”. (Screenshot of Error attached) I have tried it again several times and keep getting the same error. I am running Mac OS Ventura 13.0.1. Anyone know a fix?   

Hello everyone,A few months ago Sonos put out an update (I have no idea which one, but I’m sure they do!) which has effectively stopped my personal music library from indexing.I can run the “Update Music Library” as many times as you wish, and I systematically receive the same error message:The music is stored on a NAS - which has no issues.The network is working perfectly well.This is a known issue with Sonos - I have sent logs and talked to their Service Centre.I simply can’t understand why this issue is not being dealt with! They have known about it for months, but no answers?Getting seriously worried that their teams are focusing only on streaming, and abandoning the thousands of clients like myself with libraries  to which we hold dear, and want to be able to use as one of our sources of listening to music!Hope someone out there has some answers - because Sonos certainly doesn’t!!Gerard

Lately, it has happened at certain times of the day when streaming radio on Sonos (TuneIN), I lose the connection. Sometimes I hear signals from another devices in the group. It's almost like it's a bad internet line, but I have fiber with 1GB both ways, so capacity shouldn't be an issue here. Have tried changing to different channels in the app without this helping the problem. I have tried to change radiochannels and to stream from Aplle music, with the same problems. Any ideas what the problem is?

Hi - is there any way to work around the seemingly arbitrary limit on the number of radio stations I can save to My Sonos? I have reached the limit which is quite annoying. 

I’m in Ireland and using a Sonos One. Under Services and Voice==> Music and Content I have Audible. When I click ‘Add a Service’ to add Amazon Music I have 79 options, but ‘Amazon Music’ is not one of those options.Would anybody know how I could make it appear?

I know there where several topics about the sonos favorite limit, people explained the limited playlist is a feature.But seriously, you cannot limit peoples behaviours!Please increase the limit, its a stupid concept to reduce the possibilities we use sonos products we paid for.Nice sunday, enjoy music :)

I have built in speakers in my new apartment and it’s sonos amp. I am trying to connect my tv to it and use it as surround sound. Is that possible?

I’ve had Sonos for many years. Generation 1. I use Sonos controller 1 on laptop and phone. the music library is held on a Diskstation NAS drive (Z drive). All has worked fine through a previous laptop and windows upgrade to 10.When I got the new laptop the Sonos was working and finding music on the NAS drive. I couldn’t however manipulate files and folders on the Z drive from file explorer. After a few days I fixed this (it was technical and I cannot remember how). But this fix coincided with the present problem that Sonos cannot now access my music from either the desktop app or the phone app S1 controller. I can see the music library. Searches work and I then queue up the music (it goes in to the queue for the selected room). But on hitting play a message pops up saying it can’t find the file.The sonos speakers themselves are working if for example I play radio or connect spotify.I did momentarily get the access back. I uninstalled the phone app and (coincidentally?) when I opened th

The Windows app has a massive bug adding songs to playlists from a local library.  I have five Sonos playlists (not Spotify playlists). I store my music on the same Windows PC where I run the Sonos windows app.  Here is how you can reproduce the bug:In the Windows app, play a song from my local library. Then click the “i” and then “Add song to Sonos playlist”.  The next screen should show the list of playlists, but most times the app does not show the list of playlists and instead shows a message “No playlists have been added to your Sonos Playlists yet”.  But I have 5 playlists, so it is wrong.  If I click “i” and then “Add song to Sonos playlist” again it will usually show the same wrong message.  One time in 10 it works, and shows my playlists.  So basically it is unusable to create a playlist in the windows app.  Has anyone else experienced this?  I have searched in the community and did not find others with this problem (though frankly I find the search algorithm in the community

Good afternoon.  Had my router go out.  Now my patio speakers and sound bar are connected together.  How can I separate again 

Hi I’ve several Sonos amps plus in-ceiling speakers. None of these speakers are voice enabled. Can I use an Amazon device such as a “Dot” or “Echo” to control the music?if this is possible what is the best device ? thanks. 

 okay, after years of having Sonos work okay it is now playing up, a lot. Dropping out, iOS and Mac controller not connecting, Spotify unable to add tracks, unable to update Sonos on Mac without reinstalling every time. This is getting annoying and would like it sorted, and before you ask yes I have turned it all off and on again on multiple occasions and reinstalled it and yadayadayada. Make it work, it used to and now doesn't and I have not changed anything. I don't know if there is now an issue between Spotify and Sonos but it wont play any my playlists through the Sonos app but will through the Spotify app but that is only a half-fix. 

Cannot connect to Sonos system any longer

Yes, today Sonos SUCKS. That is all. 

Updated my app/system to 16.5 now I can’t control the volume on my iPhone. Infuriating any help would be appreciated 

When I attempt to upgrade the controller on my laptop, I get the following error “Error 1324.  The path ?ProgramFiles (X86) contains an invalid character.” I recently used some PC Mover Software (LapLink) that moved the contents of my old laptop to my new laptop. Is there a config file or registry setting I can edit to fix this path.  I tried to delete the software and re-install, but get the same error message.

I have nine Sonos speakers mostly used to listen to BBC Radio 4.  Whenever we have a power interruption (quite frequent) they all loose their default Radio 4 setting.  Is there any way I can get the system to restore these defaults when the power returns?  

When I listen to steaming audio from radio programs the voices are very muffled.  I would like to turn on speech enhancement with the hope I can better understand what is being said.  The speech enhancement only seems to be available when I am steaming from the television though.   I can I clear up the muffled voices from radio stations?