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Sonos and Mesh Networks Can Play In The Same Sandbox

HIMesh Networks do work with Sonos as long as you choose components designed to work as a Mesh. Let me explain….The PRIMARY function of a Me...
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how to calculate how many speakers needed for outdoor space?

I am planning to get sonos speakers for outdoor area. I have a pool area and garden at a total of 5-7000 sqft. I was planning to get 1 amp w...
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Smokey RowContributor I
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Connecting Play:1 to new wifi

Hi all. I have a Sonos Play: 1 system at my house. I recently purchased a new router (a Netgear Nighthawk C7000), and I am having trouble getting my Sonos to connect. I follow all the steps on the Sonos app, and at the end I get an error message saying there was a problem trying to connect. No other information is given. Does anyone know how to solve this issue?

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Unable to AirPlay to Era 100/300 in separate VLANs

Hello,  I dont see any reason why the other Topic was closed. Refering to I will not accept the fact that this is just closed to say “Just put it in same VLAN”. This is far more like a F*** O*** statement towards your customers. The previous models, were pretty fine working, untill the ERA has been released. How hard is it to listen also to your customers who wants to secure their enviroment and put things in different VLANS?  If this is not being fixed in the coming months, our stores in the Netherlands (35+), will not be onboarded with SONOS setups. To be honest, I still want this to get to work, but if this will stay like this, there is no other choice to see other brands. This is not a threat or a warning, just the facts.  Hope that someone from SONOS reads this actually. 

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Edson MillerContributor I
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Connect ALL Sonos speakers directly to Wi-Fi if you have a strong Wi-Fi 6 mesh network for better performance

Bottom line: Connect ALL Sonos speakers directly to Wi-Fi if you have a strong Wi-Fi 6 mesh network.Don’t connect ANY speakers to Ethernet, as often recommended for older Sonos speakers like Play:1. This solved my problems with speakers dropping out of a large group and made older Sonos speakers more responsive while grouped with newer Sonos speakers. The details: Sonos Performance Tip: When Not to Use SonosNet (WM:0) Setup Summary:  ~10 Sonos speakers (mostly Play:1 and some newer models) No speakers wired to Ethernet A Boost was available but unplugged Strong Wi-Fi 6 mesh network (e.g., eero, TP-Link, etc.) 1 Gbps fiber internet   Findings:After trying both SonosNet (WM:0) and Wi-Fi mode (WM:1):  SonosNet made performance worse in this setup — more dropouts and instability Switching all speakers to WM:1 (Wi-Fi) resulted in clear improvement Boost was unplugged, and no speakers were wired via Ethernet — relying purely on the mesh Wi-Fi proved more stable   Takeaway: If you

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Merging two 16.1 systems

Hi.  I am running two 16.1 systems in different homes - one was cloned from the other several years ago as Sonos had no other way to copy Playlists.  I now want to move a couple of speakers from one home to the other.   I havent upgraded anything, and the comments on the new App continue to tell me that is the right decision for me - Music Library, Playlists, ...and without a roll back plan when I discover the new system wont work with my currently fully functioning wireless I never will…..   So now to the question.If i take these speakers (a PLay 3 and a Play One), that are running identical software, and using my 16.1 app on the Android that is now dedicated to Sonos, will it allow me to add them, or will I get the ‘you need to do a system upgrade”.   Is there any genius out there that has either done this, or knows what might work.  I sadly suspect the moderators will respond with a party line telling me that the new app is great, but nope, not until there is a roll back option.   (

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MLFContributor I
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Paierd two Sonos Ace witn Sonos ARC

Hi,Does anybody knows when it will be posible to pair two Sonos Ace with Sonos ARC?  Regards.

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JspellhomeContributor I
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Sonos Port for Multi-Room TV Audio

I recently purchased the new Sonos Arc Ultra as the main soundbar for my living room. I’m in a new house, and the living room is just about 20 yards away from another secondary living space. One of the things that sold me on Sonos was the ability so connect many speakers throughout the home, since we have a fairly open floor plan and like to entertain. In my secondary living space I have 2 bookshelf speakers and a subwoofer that I’d like to be able to sync with the main soundbar for TV audio. Will the Sonos Port work for this? We use YouTube TV, so playing audio through the two discreet speaker systems means the audio in both rooms is out of sync with each other, which is maddening since the rooms are within earshot of each other. I’d planned on hooking up the Port to my bookshelf speakers, but I’ve read some places that there is a lag on the TV audio. It’s not clear to me if that’s lag from the TV itself, or from another “primary” sonos device that’s playing TV audio. Basically, the g

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RocklynContributor I
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Connecting Sonos Sub via Home WiFi (not wired; not Sonosnet)

I have read extensively on the Sonos Forum and elsewhere and am struggling for clarity on a fairly basic question: can a Sonos Sub be connected to a Sonos Amp via standard home WiFi or can it only be connected via the network that the Sonos Amp creates (unclear whether that is called Sonosnet or something else when it is 2.4GHZ or 5 GHZ but neither work for me as signals don’t reach far enough).  My use case is pretty simple:  I have an AV closet with multiple Sonos Amps are that are connected to ceiling speakers in multiple parts of the house.  The subs for the rooms are too far away from the amps to connect via the proprietary Sonos network.  I know this because if I put the subs next to the amps near the AV closet they connect and work fine.  But when I move them to the relevant rooms they show up as Sub Not Connected.  I do not have Ethernet ports to hardwire the subs in these rooms. So, is there a way to connect the Subs to the amps via WiFi?  Is so, what settings do I need to mod

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BrianJ MadisonContributor I
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S15 Not Found When Adding a New Product

I have done a factory reset of my S15. Get the flashing orange which times out when searching for nearby products and then I get the flashing green and white. App will not find product to allow me to complete the setup. Can I manually add this?Have reset modem, router, amp, and everything i can think of. I have 2 ethernet jacks and have tried black first and white in the 2nd and vice versa. Black is just plugged into amp. White ethernet runs to router and plugged directly into it. Still will not find it. Ready to throw the entire thing out. Been working on this all day!!

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SonsoNet “Hack” for new devices Era, Arc Ultra

As a staunch believer in the superiority SonosNet I was massively disappointed in the removal of SonosNet from the new devices. I found a keen work around Arc ultra users (even though I already sold mine). Get a sub gem 3 or older (Save a few bucks), and hardwire the sub to the arc ultra. This will use the Sonos subs connection to SonosNet. Make sure you don’t have any wifi network saved in your system. This could be used for the eras as well but you’d have to also buy an either net adapter (really Sonos?) amfthen use the sub connection or even a cheap used boost or port would work. 

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Using Sonos in an offline environment

This article was originally published on Reddit. But the Sonos Reddit/Community team thought it has value to post it on the community as well. Good news, everyone! I want to provide an update about what to expect when using Sonos in an offline environment. I've been doing some testing and further digging into this from a technical side, but I also wanted to check on a few things internally before posting anything I was unsure of. I know it’s been a hot topic in the sub, and I appreciate your passion. We feel the same way as you do. First and foremost, I am happy to confirm that Sonos is still capable of working in an offline state. This has lovingly been described internally as the “cabin in the woods” scenario (alternatively: “Sonos on a boat” in the world of Sonos Support), with the understanding that the products have already been registered and updated first. To be clear, this is a relatively specific scenario with specific requirements, so I’ll expand on that below. There are some

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JandreContributor I
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port settings on router

More than one router in house.not stable. Specific settings for routers and ports

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Roger.SContributor I
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Support for mkv

I use the external library feature to stream Atmos tracks to my Era 300 this works fine with eac3 (DD+) in an mp4 container. What I would really like to do as well is the stream TruHD ripped from my Blue-ray audio disks. This only works in an mkv container which Sonos does not support. Any chance of putting this a  future feature

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DCProudContributor I
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Can I connect a Rocketfish bluetooth transmitter to a Sonos Era 100 stereo pair?

I’m thinking of using a Rocketfish Bluetooth 5.0 transmitter to transmit audio from an older iPad to a pair of Sonos Era 100 speakers. The reason I’m doing this is that the iPad is using Bluetooth 4.x and Bluetooth 5.0 provides notably better sound. I could use AirPlay, but I have been having occasional issues with AirPlay even though the speakers are less than six feet from the router. (And don’t even get me started on my futile attempts to get these speakers from the 5 GHz to the 2.4 GHz band as some have recommended.) Advice on whether this setup is possible, or alternatives that would get me the most stable connection with the maximum quality sound, are welcome.

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spotify et android

Bonjour, Depuis une semaine impossible de se connecté depuis spotify et depuis sonos à mon groupe d'enceinte. Relance des sonos, relance du routeur, réinstallation des deux appli sur tout mes périphériques Android, vidage de la cache.  Auriez vous des solutions ? Quelqu'un aurait il les mêmes problèmes que moi ?  Moderator Edit - Translation by Google:Hello,For a week now I have been unable to connect from Spotify and Sonos to my speaker group.Restarted Sonos, restarted the router, reinstalled both apps on all my Android devices, cleared the cache. Do you have any solutions? Does anyone have the same problems as me?

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How well does your internet work with wireless Sonos products?

Please reply with answers to the questions below about your internet situation and how it works with your wireless Sonos set-up.Feel free to skip the next few paragraphs. Its just me explaining why I need the info, and complaining a bit.I am based in the UK but feel free to reply with your answers even if you are not. Lets save as many people as much heartache as possible.I am going to change internet providers, without going into why, I got a month to month contract and my Roam & Roam 2 promptly started disconnecting from my brand new wifi every 20ish minutes. This is a new problem, they worked fine before I moved.I’m also looking into setting up a NAS - so adding that into the questions.So now I have the opportunity to be picky with my internet provider, I want to be able to lay the blame of whatever speaker issues I have squarely at Sonos’s feet.Ok here are the questions.So please let me know:Where you are (so that people know what providers are available to them) Who your inter

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PLCMAN58Chromatic Producer I
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Xfinity XB8 - Link Local Address Issues

I recently experienced a total network failure of my Xfinity XB8 Modem. I have numerous wired and wireless SONOS devices connected that started dropping out and overall slow network performance.Xfinity replaced the XB8 modem, and the issues continued with SONOS. I then turned off all SONOS equipment and the network issues were resolved. I verified the configuration of the three TP-LINK Managed Ethernet switches and confirmed that everything was correct (RST Settings).I then turned on all of the computers, NAS and printers and the network remained stable. I then turned on each of the wired SONOS devices and the network was stable until I turned on the PORT and the PLAYBAR and the network became unstable and unusable. Each SONOS device is plugged into a TP-LINK managed switch.I then ran Wireshark and noticed an excessive number of “LINK LOCAL ADDRESS” broadcast coming from the XB8 Modem with the Source Address starting with fe80:: - ICMP V6. I then turned off both SONOS devices and the n

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I am unable to move everything to the same room

I have a Beam, Sub, 2 Play1's and a Port. For some reason, my mistake I presume, I ended up with 3 seperate rooms: the port in 1, Beam and Sub in 1 and the Play1's in 1. I was able to create a group containing all 3 rooms, but because of this setup no surrounds (stereo pair) in the room with the Beam and the Sub.I am able to break the stereo pair in the Play1 room, which enables me to add one Play1 to the Beam/Sub room creating a stereo pair with the Beam I think. This leaves me with a Play1 in a seperate room. I would prefer to add both Play1's to the Beam/Sub room as the stereo pair, but am unable to do so.Anybody, any advice?

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Albert_8Avid Contributor I
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dlna client absent on SONOS

Instead of giving SONOS a DLNA client, SONOS persists in the crazy notion of making each and every speaker a DLNA service (renderer) and placing the index to the actual music files on each and every speaker.The result is that, as the memory of most SONOS devices is stuffed to the brim with the oversized  SONOS S2 OS, they cannot index more than about 7Gb of music library. Therefore the SONOS music library feature is useless for me as my music SAMBA share is around 42Gb.Notabene, the much smaller SONOS S1 OS allowed the indexing of the SAMBA 42Gb music shareI invite all who have similar problems to join in complaining to the ceo@sonos.com email account to ask for a DLNA CLIENT to be added to the SONOS S2 (S3?) controllers while simultaneously removing the unnecessary DLNA servers on the old and new speakers - in SONOS S2 (S3?)As far as I know, the hardware memory is impossible to increase without breaking open the speakers - even if the OS could address more memory. 

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ferdelatContributor I
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Feature request: Move 1/2 + Sub / Sub mini

Any plans on making the sub mini compatible with Move 2 speakers? I have a soundbar in my bedroom, but want to use the sub mini in my backyard bbq parties paired to my Move 2, or in the liivingroom where the Move 2 sits most of the time.I’ve read that is not compatible because Move is designed to move around, but not so sure about that.Can you track how much time a Sonos Move 1 or 2 is playing when its plugged in, meaning not moving? My bet is that Move is standing still in its charger 95% of time regardless of the region, music and lifestyle

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Arc Ultra and reserved IP/5Ghz Wifi. (Surround setup)

After a few settings in my router, I now have a much better experience with the Sonos App. Playing music and adjusting the volume is done almost without delays and the App opens/loads significantly faster.I'll try to make it short :)I have a Wifi 6 router that provides a very strong and stable wifi network, so I should therefore get a fairly high speed on the products that support Wifi 6. I discovered that my Arc Ultra was on 2.4Ghz even though it supports 5Ghz on Wifi 6.I turned off my Sub and 2xEra300 so that only Ultra was on, restarted my Ultra and saw that it was connected to 5Ghz. After that I went into my router where I initially discovered that it was not set to the highest Mhz on the 2.4 & 5Ghz network. Switched to the highest Mhz, and I locked the iP Ultra was connected to.Turned off Ultra and restarted my router and Ultra, could see that Ultra connected to the locked IP and on 5Ghz. Then I turned on my Sub and 2xEra300. After a very short time I could see everything was

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ArieBombaContributor I
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Cannot setup One (Gen2), One SL, Sub (Gen3) and Beam (Gen1) - error 1,000

I moved a couple of months ago. I haven’t been able to setup my Sonos speakers after the move. I reset all Sonos One and Sonos SL speakers to factory settings to start with a clean slate as just plugging them in didn’t work. Problem I get now, is that I can’t connect them to my Wifi to complete the setup. One time I got the “error 1,000” error. One time a speaker connected, indicated that it first needed to update it’s software (firmware/?) in order to work → but updating that software couldn’t be completed. I tried connecting them with an ethernet cableI reset the routerI removed and downloaded the sonos app on my iphoneNothing seems to work. Any tips? 

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Himedia player causes sound problems with other connections

Yesterday I upgraded my playbase to an Arc, having connected everything, it was all up and running fine last night. This morning, I had no sound coming from the TV (HDMI 1), also I had no sound when I switched to the PS5 (HDMI 2). The ARC is connected to (HDMI 3 eARC), and I have a Himedia Q10 pro conected to (HDMI 4), these are the only HDMI ports available.When I played a movie through my media player I had sound, then when I went back to the TV and PS5 I also have sound. But once I have turned everything off for a short while and come back to it, it’s happens again, no sound to both the TV and PS.I have changed the ports around, disconnected everything, unplugged and replugged everything. The only time it works is when the HDMI cable to the media player is disconnected, even if I remove the power connector there is still the issue.Anyone have any idea how to fix this? thanks.

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Connecting Play1 to S1 avoiding upgrade

I want to connect my play1 to my s1 system.  I DO NOT want to upgrade but it prompts me every time.  When I hit not now, nothing happens.How to fix this? thx

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HD

I have Flac files on a NAS. They play on my whole system. How can I get confirmation that HD content is being played? Thanks

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Sonos app V80.0 does not support NAS drive

So the following note has been added to the SONOS support topic Use a NAS drive with Sonos. Sonos app version 80.0This setting is not currently available in the Sonos app for iOS or Android, but it will return in a future update.They are forcing the update, and there's no Music Library option in the system menu anymore. This is very frustrating. Very sloppy software development. Is complaining to support my only option to get this enabled again? 

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