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  • October 26, 2024
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I have Flac files on a NAS. They play on my whole system. How can I get confirmation that HD content is being played? Thanks

Best answer by Antifon

From memory, this is a feature that was “upgraded” during the May release, and so that symbol no longer appears. If so, the feature might be back at some stage, or it might not.

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buzz
  • October 26, 2024

If the FLAC files were created in HD, they will play in HD.


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  • Contributor I
  • October 26, 2024

My S2 player doesn’t show “HD” on currently playing page. Where else would it say it?


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  • Prodigy III
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  • October 26, 2024

From memory, this is a feature that was “upgraded” during the May release, and so that symbol no longer appears. If so, the feature might be back at some stage, or it might not.


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • October 26, 2024

From memory, this is a feature that was “upgraded” during the May release, and so that symbol no longer appears. If so, the feature might be back at some stage, or it might not.

HD never showed for local library playback, it was limited to streaming services only.


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • October 26, 2024

If your ears can’t tell, does it even matter?


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  • Prodigy III
  • October 26, 2024

From memory, this is a feature that was “upgraded” during the May release, and so that symbol no longer appears. If so, the feature might be back at some stage, or it might not.

HD never showed for local library playback, it was limited to streaming services only.

Sorry - not true. I am currently listening to a track from my local library. It’s a FLAC, and the display shows an “HD” symbol. If I listen to the same track in 32-bit coding, it shows the “HiRes” symbol instead (though it doesn’t play the track properly, because it tries to play it even though Sonos does not support 32-bit encoding).

I should add - neither of the above is from memory - this is what I am seeing on the app right now (running the pre-May release).


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  • Contributor I
  • October 26, 2024

My flac collection used to show up. Thanks


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  • Contributor I
  • October 26, 2024

So am I actually getting Flac audio since it’s not showing up. Sounds great but I would like confirmation 


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  • Prodigy III
  • October 26, 2024

As I said, the feature has either been retired or is on holiday. If the latter, I doubt Sonos will place any great priority on bringing it back - they have more important problems to resolve.

 

But, given that AFAIK Sonos has not added the ability to re-encode FLACs on the fly, if it’s stored in HD then it will be played in HD. You can probably get confirmation by jumping forward a track. If it takes a long time for all of your speakers to get back in sync, it’s probably in HD!


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • October 26, 2024

From memory, this is a feature that was “upgraded” during the May release, and so that symbol no longer appears. If so, the feature might be back at some stage, or it might not.

HD never showed for local library playback, it was limited to streaming services only.

Sorry - not true. I am currently listening to a track from my local library. It’s a FLAC, and the display shows an “HD” symbol. If I listen to the same track in 32-bit coding, it shows the “HiRes” symbol instead (though it doesn’t play the track properly, because it tries to play it even though Sonos does not support 32-bit encoding).

I should add - neither of the above is from memory - this is what I am seeing on the app right now (running the pre-May release).

Huh, ok, I stand corrected. <fx:tries to find some FLAC files to try this out>


buzz
  • October 27, 2024

Can someone post an image of this note?


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  • Prodigy III
  • October 28, 2024

Can someone post an image of this note?

What do you mean by “this note”?


buzz
  • October 28, 2024

What you are seeing that indicates “HD”.


What you are seeing that indicates “HD”.

Here is an example. This is playing a lossless ALAC (16-bit/48 kHz) file from my music library on the old S2 app:


And here is an example of playing a 24-bit/48 kHz FLAC file. It displays “HiRes”:

 


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  • Contributor I
  • October 28, 2024

So does the identification of hd or flac only occur on S2?? I’m using new app. 


So does the identification of hd or flac only occur on S2?? I’m using new app. 

Unfortunately Sonos removed the HD and HiRes indicators on the new app. There has been no word of them returning.


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  • Contributor I
  • October 28, 2024

So does the identification of hd or flac only occur on S2?? I’m using new app. 

Unfortunately Sonos removed the HD and HiRes indicators on the new app. There has been no word of them returning.

Thanks


MoPac
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  • Headliner III
  • October 28, 2024

 Sonos can only play files with a sample rate of 48kHz and, as far as I know, Sonos does not down convert anything.  So what’s the point of reporting the “HD” icon?

 I don’t think FLAC files are beaning streamed as MP3s.


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • October 28, 2024

Sorry - not true. I am currently listening to a track from my local library. It’s a FLAC, and the display shows an “HD” symbol. If I listen to the same track in 32-bit coding, it shows the “HiRes” symbol instead (though it doesn’t play the track properly, because it tries to play it even though Sonos does not support 32-bit encoding).

I should add - neither of the above is from memory - this is what I am seeing on the app right now (running the pre-May release).

Huh, ok, I stand corrected. <fx:tries to find some FLAC files to try this out>

I found some FLAC files online and you are 100% correct: the “Gold” S2 app displays “HD” and, more amazingly, my own Windows app also displays “HD” - I had forgotten I had even written that code! If you can point me to a publicly available FLAC file that shows “HiRes” I can add support for that too.


 Sonos can only play files with a sample rate of 48kHz and, as far as I know, Sonos does not down convert anything.  So what’s the point of reporting the “HD” icon?

 I don’t think FLAC files are beaning streamed as MP3s.

Sonos supports audio files with sample rates up to 48kHz. And there are plenty of audio formats that Sonos supports (like MP3s) that aren’t lossless. Read more here:

https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/supported-audio-formats-for-sonos-music-library


Sorry - not true. I am currently listening to a track from my local library. It’s a FLAC, and the display shows an “HD” symbol. If I listen to the same track in 32-bit coding, it shows the “HiRes” symbol instead (though it doesn’t play the track properly, because it tries to play it even though Sonos does not support 32-bit encoding).

I should add - neither of the above is from memory - this is what I am seeing on the app right now (running the pre-May release).

Huh, ok, I stand corrected. <fx:tries to find some FLAC files to try this out>

I found some FLAC files online and you are 100% correct: the “Gold” S2 app displays “HD” and, more amazingly, my own Windows app also displays “HD” - I had forgotten I had even written that code! If you can point me to a publicly available FLAC file that shows “HiRes” I can add support for that too.

Find a 24-bit/48kHz FLAC or ALAC file and it will display “HiRes”.


controlav
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  • Lead Maestro
  • October 30, 2024

Find a 24-bit/48kHz FLAC or ALAC file and it will display “HiRes”.

Thank you, I am updating my app to display streaming details of local files now, eg:

and for FLAC:

I don’t know the exact criteria for “HD” or “HiRes” so I’m just going to show the numbers.


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  • Contributor I
  • October 30, 2024

How do you update app. to display HD?


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  • Prodigy III
  • October 31, 2024

How do you update app. to display HD?

You mean that Sonos S2 app? The only way I know of now is to revert the app to a pre-May release, but most people won’t be able to do that now, because if you accept the latest firmware for the speakers, you can (I am led to believe) no longer revert to an older version of the app.


How do you update app. to display HD?

You can’t. This feature is only available on the old S2 app.