Controllers and Music services

Hello, does anyone found sound difference with new enlarged broadband on Sonos S2 when playing vinyls? Do you know if S2 now support MQA from Tidal? I saw that casting Tidal to Sonos from Tidal app, converts Master to Hifi Quality. I noticed a substancial difference instead comparing Apple Music VS Qobuz, meaning that there IS a difference with new enlarged broadband if the systems support the format.

I have no intention of moving to S2 since I have too many devices that are Not compatible; however, I like to group them for music.  I am also gifting a device I do NOT use to a friend who just needs a nice connected speaker.  How do I remove a single device from my system to do that on the S1?  I did this in the past when I got rid of my controller, but can’t figure out how to do it now...

If Sonos have abandoned the Windows controller (and with it a large number of users who paid for a product) then please consider putting the code into a public repo at Github. This will allow technically minded users to maintain the application. There are a huge number of very experienced and able Windows software developers - myself included - (I also developed a .Net Sonos API and have some serious insights to this). I paid for a product, I’m a software developer and work at my Windows PC a great deal, this is the world I live in, not Android, not Apple and was one of the attractions of Sonos at the time I made my purchase. If we’ve been abandoned or sidelined then I see no reason to remain a loyal Sonos user and will simply dump the product.        

In case anyone was interested, the audio lag when watching videos / youtube / music using Airplay from a Mac/ OSX has been resolved with Sonos S2.  You can also send airplay to multiple Sonos speakers (although this was possible previously). When watching Youtube / any video content, select one of the Sonos speakers from the main apple sound menu (speaker top right in OSX). You will only be able to select a single speaker here, but if you go into the Sonos App (on the desktop or iphone / android) you can then group speakers with the original speaker selected on the mac, and set the independent speaker volumes etc.

Hello, Agenda: Chromecast support on Sonos. I’ve been reading through this forum about this topic, and basically can’t find any clear answer - apart from ‘we’ll pass this request to developers’. As an iPhone user I know I can use Airplay however I don’t find it a very good solution; I get a phone call, music stops, walk out the house, music stops, not to mention my battery constantly draining. Additionally as good (in its own way) the Sonos app is, many services don’t give their respective platforms enough attention, rather spending it on their native apps - many of which support Chromecast. e.g. I often find myself on Soundcloud native iOS app, find a set I want to listen, but then have to go into Sonos’s app and search it again. Similar use case with YouTube music, and Youtube in general, need to use Airplay. So I’d like to ask: Are there are Sonos developers here who could comment on the challenges of implement

This behaviour started a month or so ago.  Its pretty annoying  Diagnostic sent > 396349532 This usually happens if the app is opened after being closed for many hours, after being closed the night before, or when its open and no streaming has occured for many hours.  1 tap to open Sonos App on my iPhone 7plus (latest upgrade for both) 2 app opens to My Sonos but the main screen is grayed out and each item that is greyed out is flashing.  My Sonos is set with Recently Played then Stations (there are others but those are the only two visible when opening the app).  3 if i click on <rooms> or <browse> then back to <My Sonos> then the flashing is stopped and the items show instead of being greyed out.  4 as long as I keep it open for that priod of use it will be fine  5 sometimes if its been open for hours and not used (nothing streaming). then when tap or switch to it, the same behaviour happens. 

If I upgrade my compatible speakers to S2, is it possible to then move them back to S1 (so they can be used again with my older units) or are they forever S2?     And is it a headache to switch them back?  Ideally I’d like to be able to keep all my speakers on S1, and then on occasion use a few of them on S2 and then go back to S1.  My guess is that won’t be an easy process.  

Finally pulled the trigger on replacing the remaining Legacy components in my set up, at least the critical ones. This was a tough and close decision for me. The Legacy decision almost forced me to walk away from Sonos. This purchase consisted of just south of $3000.00 for 6 new amps (after discounts). The extended Plan was to just junk the remaining residuals of my stuff for now, and add and restructure with some other options as we go. This purchase would keep the party going so to speak. Shipping and packaging was awesome, got me pretty excited before I even opened the boxes. Install and connection was an absolute nightmare. Every unit couldn't be discovered for multiple attempts, the controller app would freeze and lock up on numerous occasions, Reboots, resets, and reattempts galore.  And I am not talking once or twice here either. So after multiple HOURS - yes multiple HOURS, to get 6 new amps swapped out and recognized, still nothing wanted to communicate properly. Gro

After downloading and installing today’s new app release, every time I launch the app it asks me to turn on Bluetooth to access accessories, but I don’t understand why since none of my Sonos speakers have Bluetooth. If I turn it on the banner goes away in future launches, but if I turn off Bluetooth, it again asks for me to turn it on during launch.  This is annoying and I don’t know why it needs Bluetooth turned on, does anyone know why this is happening? Btw the version is 11.1

My iPad and iPhone auto upgraded to S1 Controller and went to play music and no speakers found. Tried to rejoin system and got repeated message system not found. Reset Play:1 device and tried to join to the system, no luck. On hard reset Play:1 went through setup for network, but then failed on making a system at the chime, even though it joined the network fine. All speakers still on the same network and data transmits are going back and forth. Just cant get any of them to join a new or existing system. I don’t want to go resetting my sound bar etc in case I cant get it back. Any ideas appreciated.

Updated entire system to S2. All went very smoothly as usual with Sonos.  Should I now uninstall the redundant S1 controller? 

I have a vintage Bridge and a Play:5 (Gen 1), neither of which are S2 compatible. My Play:5 (Gen 1) is trade-up eligible. Is the trade-up to a Play:5 (Gen 2)? I can't trade-up my Bridge. And I don't see a "Gen 2 Bridge" in the S2 compatible products list. What would I purchase to replace my Bridge with? Can I get a new bridge or equivalent (fresh purchase) and a new Play:5 (via 'trade-up') and still keep my old/original gear and set up two systems, one vintage and one new? Or am I required to send the Play:5 (Gen 1) back to you?

With S2 out in the wild, I was wondering if anyone can test if local control with UPNP still works before I take the plunge (since I am unsure if I can rollback).   I use Sonos with my home automation setup and it relies on the UPNP API not the cloud API.    

I have a number of Sonos devices, some legacy some ‘modern’. with the introduction of S2, can I select which of my newer devices to move over to the S2 app? I have a legacy connect that I usually group with an S2 compatible Play3 - To enable me to continue to group these I want to keep both on S1, while moving the other kit over to S2.

EDIT: My indexing has just finished with an error saying there’s not enough space. So I guess that question has been answered. A real shame, as backwards-compatibility was often the reason given for not increasing the index size.   OK, S2 has now hit the streets and the question that’s been on everyone’s lips (well, mine and and maybe a couple of other people!) is… Has the 65K track limit been increased now? Ever since Sonos removed the http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1400/status/tracks_summary screen it’s been impossible for users to see their index size without going through support. I’m currently reindexing mine to see, but it’s kinda tricky to spot missing tracks when the collection is that large!  

I’m wondering if there will be desktop controller versions (macOS, Windows) of the S2 app, or just mobile controllers. Has any information been released about this?

Hi, just curious if anyone knows of a way to control the Sonos speaker (e.g. Play 5) volume with a physical hardware volume knob. Like if I am using the Sonos App on my computer, is there any way to control the Sonos volume with a USB device like this: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XPH7FFJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Thanks in advance for any feedback or suggestions!

Anyone else finding the iOS app consistently needing to be killed and restarted just to stay connected?  

The Berlin Philharmonic has made its Digital Concert Hall free for the next thirty days because their concert hall is closed due to coronavirus.  It would be great if Sonos could add this as a source!

I keep seeing the crossfade option when messing around the settings on the Sonos App.  What exactly does it do and when do I use it?

All of a sudden I’m no longer able to rearrange the songs in queue from my iPhone or iPad.   I’m able to add songs from my library and select “add to end of queue” or “play next”, but once they are added, I’m unable to adjust the order.  Normally I can tap and hold a song and move it up or down in the queue, that option is gone - all I can do is delete songs.   :(   My Sonos and iOS software are both up to date.  I am still able to rearrange songs on my Mac but it was so convenient to be able to do it from my phone - this was one of my favorite features of the Sonos app.  Am I missing something?

Hi. I froze my Sonos system at 8.4 in order to preserve my CR100’s. I am about to buy 2 second hand ZP120’s to add to the system. I suspect that I can only link them if my entire system is running the same firmware, and the ones I am going to purchase are running the latest firmware. I’ve read that I need to do a factory reset on the new units then add them as new units. I also know that updating the existing units will brick the CR100s. The question is: What will happen to my Sonos playlists during the update process - will they be preserved?

I’d like to connect an internet music service live stream on my Macbook Pro laptop to my Sonos system. While Sonos does provide access to many internet streaming services, I have a subscription to Hearts of Space and so am not limited by predefined music that the service chooses to air through the Sonos arrangement. I can select anything from their entire library. Is is possible therefore to get the audio ouput from my Macbook Pro streamed to my Sonos system? Any help much appreciated!  

I have an Apple TV. I want to purchase a Sonos speaker and debating between the Five and Arc. Can I connect my Apple TV to the Five via Airplay to output audio?

This sounds intriguing and my Tidal trial will still be active when I receive my Sonos Arc... I hope. With all the fuss over getting Atmos signals from Arc and eArc I wonder how is it effected when streaming music.  Can the art output Atmos music via a stream?