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This is the place to troubleshoot your Sonos hacks, advanced setups, and third party integrations. Be mindful of your products warranty, and that Sonos staff can't always assist in an official capacity here.

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Sonos and Mesh network

Hi @Bourney Welcome to the Sonos Community!I believe that system will work with your Sonos without issue, yes.Please note that when you add...
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Two systems on one wifi network, with only one phone controller?

As you perhaps realise, one set of speakers would need to be factory reset and then set up afresh as a ‘new system’ while the other set is t...
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MorsePacificContributor I
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Using Airplay as a viable output for all MacBook sound

This isn't an advanced setup as such but felt it fitted best here. I have a Play:1 setup in my living room which will become a Playbar + Play:1 setup once my movers ship my stuff. I also have a Play:5 coming. I'm committed to the Sonos system! I've just setup a new office and was originally thinking of putting the Play:5 in here. However, after setting up a Henge Dock for my MacBook Pro I realised I would need a speaker for it, but that the Play:5 is too big to place anywhere on the desk. A Play:3 would fit perfectly, but has no Line-In. I tried AirSonos as a hack and whilst it works in test, the lag makes it unrealistic for everyday use. I'm tempted to go with an Airport Express + Connect:Amp as in the future I would like to introduce a record player too, but I don't want to go down this path and then find that I have the same lagging issue. Is Airplay a viable option for pushing all MacBook sound?

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rtbarryContributor I
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Trying to reach across a property, to an outdoor veranda/guest house. Hoping a dual-boost setup can bridge the gap.

Not a super "advanced" scenario, but... My mom has a largish property with a multi-room Sonos setup inside the main house, using her existing WiFi (Apple). Works fine. But she has a veranda area where people cook&dine. Bought a Play:3 for this area that she can bust out whenever she uses the space. But the existing WiFi doesn't reliably make it that far (approx 20-25 meters). Considering segregating her house Sonos network onto a Boost (get it off the Apple), and placing another Boost out with the Play:3. Will the 2nd Boost help bridge the gap using mesh overlap between the Boosts? Or will the Boost and the Play:3 already be attempting the same thing the same way. Essentially wondering if the Boost units have more oomph in the mesh than the other Sonos units do. Thanks in advance!

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ronmandingoContributor I
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Projector to Connect Amp

Hi gang. I'm trying to set up an outdoor movie for my kids and run sound out of my outdoor speakers that are connected to my Sonos Connect Amp. I am able to route sound from my laptop to the speakers by connecting an RCA cable in the headphone jack to the Connect Amp, but obviously that bypasses the projector. When I connect the HDMI cable from my laptop to the projector...no sound comes out of the outdoor speakers. I tried disconnecting sound from my laptop and then routing a standard set of RCA cables from the projector to the Connect Amp, but no sound out of the speakers there either. A couple points of clarification, I am using a PC laptop, and I have Line In Component selected and playing in the Sonos controller on the laptop. Any help here would be appreciated.

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7 years ago
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cm100Avid Contributor I
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How do I know if I got a STP / Broadcast Storm problem with Sonos?

I saw this video that explained to me the Spanning Tree Protocol and Broadcast Storms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAIsFX1XPHo Since I have multiple Sonos speakers connected with wire and some are wireless, and by connecting at least one speaker with wire will make that speaker the hub of the SonosNet, as I understand it. So my setup might be applicable to the "Broadcast Storm" problem. From what I understand, this can be prevented by two ways: - Sonos has their own STP solution, so even if you mix wired and wireless speakers, "it should work", correct? - You start using switches that supports STP (or one of the other variants RSTP/MSTP), which will notice duplicated packets and remove them, correct? I have a router and from that I branch out to Netgear GS105 switches (which then might connect to other GS105 switches - I have know idea if they have STP support or not). But my question is... - How would I even know if I got "Broadcast Storm" problem in my home n

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skyschemerEnthusiast II
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Audio delays on external amplifiers - a stupid solution that works

By now we are probably all familiar with the fact that some external receivers impart a noticeable delay in their audio processing, which means your sound from from your CONNECT+amplifier might be 5 to 20ms behind the rest of your Sonos system. The typical solution for this is to put your amplifier/receiver in a "no-processing" mode ("Straight", "Pure Direct", or the myriad of other names that manufacturers choose for these). As the owner of an older Yamaha sound bar that has no such option--even the analog ins incur some delay--I figured I'd just have to live with this until Sonos could be convinced to put an audio delay setting in their CONNECT, but I am pretty sure that will happen "never". Sonos wants to sell you PLAY speakers, not CONNECTs. And then I tried a stupid idea that works. Warning: this is really stupid. I took the outputs of my CONNECT, and connected them to both to my external speakers (via digital audio) and a SONOS PLAY:5 via the analog line in. Then I have

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PinkyBKSContributor I
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iPhone Intermittently Drops Controller Connection, MacBook Does Not Drop Connection on Google Fiber

I love my Sonos PLAY:3 players! I have Google Fiber and noticed my iPhone controller randomly connected and disconnected to Sonos throughout a day. All the while, my MacBook Pro had no trouble connecting to the system. After trying a number of things such as setting the channels, I decided to try setting up my Google Router to have a separate SSID for 2.4GHz and 5.0GHz. I renamed the main SSID to denote "slow" and then named the 5.0GHz after my original SSID. I restarted my router just to be safe. After separating the two bandwidths, I connected one of my speakers to the router and used the MacBook controller to assign the speakers to the 2.4Ghz SSID. My iPhone and MacBook connected right to the 5.0GHz SSID without a change. My Apple and Sonos family are now speaking together. In fact, they are making sweet music together! Peace and Music On!

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george1821rContributor I
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Need bluetooth for Play 1, thinking of buying a Play 5, but need to be able to play music without accessing the Sonos app at all

We have purchased a Play 1 for a home owner who wanted wireless audio in the bathroom. Our issues though are: 1) he refuses to use the Sonos app and 2) it turns out he mostly uses the YouTube app on an iPhone as a music source. After researching the forums thoroughly, I have come to understand that we could buy a Play 5 for him along with a Bluetooth receiver, put it in another room, and the audio could be sent to both the Play 5 and the Play 1 that way. What I need to understand before investing in another Sonos is speaker is whether (after the initial setup) the audio could be sent from the iPhone via Bluetooth without using the Sonos app at all: just turn on bluetooth, connect to the receiver and play audio from the phone. If that's the case, during the initial setup in the Sonos app I could select whether the audio is sent automatically to the Play 1, the Play 5 or both, right? And if I manage to convince him to learn how to use the app, he could use it to select which of the spe

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thebobbydigitalAvid Contributor I
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7 Sonos clients, 5 hard-wired. Should I disable SonosNet in favor of WiFi?

I have 7 sonos clients in our house with an Eero WiFi system. I have good WiFi coverage everywhere. 5 of the clients are hard-wired via Ethernet, with 2 remaining ones needing to connect wirelessly. My understanding is that because I have at least one sonos client plugged into Ethernet, I have a BOOST setup, with the hardwired clients created a SonosNET network in parallel to my existing main WiFi network. I feel like SonosNet is unnecessary and to just eliminate wireless interference, I’m thinking of disabling it. However, I have some questions. If I switch my setup to regular WiFi instead of SonosNet, will my existing 5 hardwired clients still use the hard wire, and only the 2 remaining units connecting to WiFi? Anything I’m missing?

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jgatie
7 years ago
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jishiHeadliner I
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Fully managed C# library

Hi, I have been working on a simplified UPnP library which is aimed at Sonos that I want to make available to others. You can find the source-code here: https://github.com/jishi/Jishi.Intel.SonosUPnP This is based upon Intels UPnP framework, which is opposed to the COM object that other attempts that I have found, based completely on managed code (no unmanaged code). This makes a huge difference if you are building anything multithreaded (WinForms, WPF etc). I will try to put up some example code for people to look at. Right now some of the features are pretty hacky since I'm still learning best practices, but hopefully it simplifies it a bit for someone. This is built for .NET 4 Client Profile. The requirements is only .NET 4, previous versions doesn't need to exist. Basic usage is this: code:// Create the main objectvar discovery = new SonosDiscovery();// Attach an event handler for topologychanged, this will be triggered as soon as it has found players (and w

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Jonathon HuberContributor I
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Yonomi and Amazon Alexa

If you have an Amazon Echo you can now control your Sonos device. Download the Yonomi app, connect to Sonos. Open up the Alexa app, connect yonomi in the smart home skills. Hit find devices and Sonos shows up. I added my Sonos individually in the groups section for easier voice control to recognize the device. With yonomi you can add routines to automate things with Sonos. Finally Home automation!

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skimottaretContributor I
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Guest access for only one Sonos device

I would like to allow guests to use a play 1 in a guest room but not control any of the other sonos devices in my house. I have a separate guest wifi network with password via an Apple Airport. Do I need to hard wire the Play 1 via ethernet to the Airport? I do not want this device on the sonos network, how do I set it up?

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robokittyEnthusiast II
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5 sonos devices on a Ubiquity Unifi network. Matrix looks terrible.

Just brought up a network at home, and the matrix now looks terrible. Details below. Something is clearly wrong. You can see in the attached matrix that there is no root device, and a lot of STP is blocked. Wired devices are turning up orange. This Sonos system has “evolved” over 5 years and several routers, bridge swapped for boost, etc. I feel like it maybe needs a factory reset. There are a few settings in there I care about, but could live without (a couple of playlists, DSP tuning of the speakers). Here are the full details: I'm using Sonos Net for the wireless. Here's the network topology: Unifi USG router -> Unifi switch 8 (root switch). root switch -> Sonos Boost. root switch -> Playbase "Living Room" root switch -> Unifi switch 8 (secondary switch). secondary switch -> Sonos Connect (Office). Sonos Play5 II, wireless, near boost (“Birthday”) Sonos Play5 I, wireless, near connect (“Smoky”) The Unifi switches are set up the recommended way for Sonos. Spa

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uvmgradContributor I
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ZP100 Cannot Connect to Exisiting System

I have an existing system with 5 various Sonos products and recently acquired an old ZP100 from storage that has not been connected for at least 5-6 years. When I plug the ZP100 the light flashes white for 15-20 seconds then remains solid white. I then attempt to add a new device and the ZP100 is not detected. I have tried connect wirelessly, directly to my router, and plugging into my Play1, and PLay5. I have tried a factory reset as well and have had zero luck. Is there a way to connect via wire to a PC and ping the device to ensure it's getting an IP address or force a software update? I have tried googling for a few hours with no luck. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,

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Stephane22Contributor III
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MULTIROOM installation

Some questions for a multiroom installation: If I buy 8 SONOS CONNECT (connected to 8 different amp/speaker pairs, but on the same WiFi network): 1- Can I control these 8 different CONNECT through the same app? 2- Can I push the same streaming audio channel onto the 8 CONNECT? If yes, will they be in perfect audio sync or the “original” source will output few milliseconds before? 3- Can I feed a line-input on one of the CONNECT and share it across the remaining 7? If yes, will they be in perfect audio sync or the “connected one” will output few milliseconds before? Any answer is appreciated, Thanks.

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DaveBlackwellContributor I
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Whole House Audio: Connect4 & Sonos

I recently bought a home that has a Connect4 System installed for whole house audio. It has an 8x8 matrix amp with audio sources being: my local NAS MP3 Library, Internet Radio, Pandora, Spotify, and Sonos Connect. There are currently 8 zones in my home that have in-ceiling speakers that are wired back to my A/V closet with the Control4 matrix amp. I have outfitted my home with SmartThings (rather than Control4) for home automation (because I prefer open systems rather than closed systems.) The net effect now is that I have 2 systems: Connect4 for audio, and SmartThings for home automation. I believe Sonos integrates into Sono, and Control4 does not. That being the case, I am wondering if it would be possible (or feasible) to replicate the "whole house audio" system that I am currently enjoying with my Control4 system, into a Sonos solution. I don't know enough about Sonos, if it is able to do multiple sources and multiple zones and matrix switching. Thanks for any word

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CoogieContributor I
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Play what's on Sonos on my AVR, and what's on my AVR on Sonos

As the title says, I want to send what's on Sonos to my AVR (presumably using a signal from a suitable Sonos device), and what's on my AVR on Sonos (presumably SENDING a signal to a Sonos device). My Sonos nbetwork connection is a Briudge (that is, none of my Sonos speakers, two 3s, one 1 and one 5, are hardwired). The Play:5 with its line-in is too far from my AVR to be usable, but is there a "wireless bridging option?" Alternatively, if I can get over the ludicrous price, will the input and output of a Connect do the job? If I have a Connect plugged into my local network, do I need the Bridge any longer, or do I not even plug the Connect in?

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PigPalaceContributor I
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Can I bypass in wall volume control?

I just bought a house with an existing ceiling speaker system that has in wall volume controls. The previous owner upgraded everything to Sonos controls in the server room. My questions is cant I somehow bypass the wall controls. I dont like having speaker controls on the walls. We use our phones or ipad to control everything. Thanks.

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paulatzarrContributor I
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One house, one WiFi network - can you have 2 seperate Sonos networks running?

I have a very large house with in-laws living in a separate annexe. We have one WiFi network covering the whole house and annexe. I have a reliable Sonos networking running in the main house with all my devices connected. I tried setting up a separate Sonos networking using a bridge in the annexe side which has 2 x Play:5 in there. It works for a while, but the next day when you try to connect to the annexe system again it can't find it and instead fines my system in the main house. Can you run 2 separate Sonos networks in one house so that in my side I can only see and use my devices and in the other side you can only see those? Thanks for your help!

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