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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 22, 2020

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Lyricist III
January 23, 2020

The News has now hit the UK Press, it’s in The Times, Headline Sonos Speake’s are obsolete within months! I think a quick rethink needs to be made on the announcement, but even with this they have lost trust in what was a loyal following. For any management reading these comments let’s see you put this right and admit what a balls up you made. 

 

Ouch!

 

Plus the BBC, Daily Mail, Metro, Evening Standard, The Sun, What HiFi and AOL UK.  The share price has fallen over 2%. At some point will someone at Sonos have a rethink?


On friday the share price was 15.395..Now it’s only 14.46. They have lost already over 6%, about 100 millions of market cap .. And I strongly believe this will continue. Would you buy piece of Sonos at the moment? Sonos customers are very angry and there is a possibility about much bigger problems also.

And the management does not comment or do anything. The ball keeps rolling. Hiding is one way to do things, but does it change anything?

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

I was looking forward to upgrading my system, not now!  Take your 30% and stick it!

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Enthusiast II
January 23, 2020

Still a deafening silence from Sonos with any coherent technical explanation. Most of us just want to be able to stream music reliably from the internet and/or a NAS. What has changed/will change so dramatically that legacy products will not be able to provide this capability?

 

I have to agree. This was anticipated, and as is ‘ok’ as far as they are concerned.


Quite how they’ll get passed all the negative press, and negative reviews online is beyond me.

 

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Avid Contributor II
January 23, 2020

I’ve also now switched off updates. I’m a long time SONOS user having kitted out my entire home in 2009 when I built the property. 
 

This decision is the worst PR a company could get. It’s all over the UK press and social media. I will not be held to ransom by a company who has zero respect for its customers. I won’t upgrade and pay to replace perfectly viable hardware. Never mind the cost, the environmental impact of disposing of these legacy products is a disgrace and SONOS should be ashamed of even suggesting that. Why brick a product leading to disposal?  Allow it to remain operational so it doesn’t end up in landfill. 
 

I will not be buying any SONOS products again. Such a fall from grace for a once great company. Very sad. 

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Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

@Ryan S Why are some “legacy” components eligible for the 30% trade-up discount, and others aren’t?

My now-legacy Bridge is not, though the Boost is the logical trade up.

(My Play:5 speakers are eligible, but I don’t plan to consider new ones until the dust settles on what actually will happen in May to legacy components. But I do need a functional Bridge/Boost due to the location of my WiFi router and need for a separate WiFi network for Sonos.)

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Lyricist II
January 23, 2020

Typical short term PE (private equity) behaviour, i bet the people at Sonos don’t agree with this

 

 

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Contributor I
January 23, 2020

INVESTORS, SELL YOUR SONOS STOCK.  This company has just had its “RATNER” MOMENT.  If you have 1 minute 36 seconds to spare, you can see Gerald Ratner give his speech that resulted in the destruction of his company. 

 

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Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

An interesting recent announcement from Sonos that in May 2020 they will be launching the Sonos Brick.

 

Full Details to follow

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Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

Interesting that with all the furore ongoing there’s no hint of crisis management PR getting involved. Leaves the impression that this reaction has been factored in and doesn’t require any additional handling.

 

Yup, and from the doubled down of closing the other thread only to open a new thread… Yup, it looks and feels like they really don’t care at this point.  Which is fine, as I have a feeling they will still do business, but for the vast majority of folks here, they have lost including me.  There is no way in hell I am going to re-invest in equipment that will be obsoleted by the company.  So I am done.  

Already looking at alternatives.

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Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

At least it will hurt the CEO with the precipitous stock drop, if he has to exercise his options;  

To address this shortfall in Mr. Spence’s equity position, and in light of Mr. Spence’s strong performance, smooth transition into a publicly-traded company, and progress on our strategic growth initiatives in the prior year, the Committee granted Mr. Spence an award that was targeted at twice the annual guideline for his position provided by our compensation consultant. Specifically, the Committee targeted a regular award in RSUs, consistent with the philosophy for the rest of the executives, with a target value of $5 million (378,044 RSUs) and an additional, special award in stock options with the same targeted value of $5 million determined on the basis of the Black-Scholes pricing model (875,000 options). His RSU award will vest ratably over four years and his stock option will vest 50% in November 2021 and 50% in November 2022, with both awards subject to his continued employment through each applicable vesting date.

 

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