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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    I was just talking to a friend who also saw the email just now and he’s gone ballistic like me! 
    Once all the stuff ceases to work as Sonos has shat on us, let’s hope they go under, lot of job losses and the company folds and we’ll just get a different cheaper system that has less drama who look after their ‘not so poor’ customers! 
    I curse the people who decided to shit on us and are trying to cash in on us! 

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    Avid Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Hi Ryan

    Why are re-sellers still selling the Connect: and Connect:Amp?  These will become obsolete in less than 6 months.  To be continuing to sell these after the announcement you have just made, is (in my opinion) close to fraudulent activity, and certainly would not pass the “fit for purpose” test.

    Thanks

     

    No they won’t.  Only those sold before 2016 are obsolete. 

    Only??? That is a disgusting support perspective!

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I could understand not updating old products with NEW features but the subtle threat of bricking ‘legacy’ components ‘over time’ is insane (oh I’m sorry, services will be IMPACTED). SONOS is clearly struggling against Amazon and Google. It’s hard to imagine there’s any real technical reason for this - rather some suit high up saw it as a money pinata.

     

    Surely they could find a way to keep Spotify working on my old components?

    They will surely lose long-time customers over this. They will lose me as a customer over this and at least right now only one of my devices has been made ‘obsolete’. I suggest all of you boycott this company unless they reverse course on this. Money talks.

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Well gutted about the announcement my sonos equipment will eventually be useless. 

    I purchased a play 5 4 years and now it's apparently obsolete. Gutted and I feel robbed. 

    Also the connect is now obsolete which is replaced with something way overpriced. 

    I cant justify spending so much money and fear this is the start of the end of my relationship with Sonos. 

    I feel let down and forced to upgrade. 

    I want to be able to disable updates and be assured forced updates wont render my investment bricked. 

     

     

     

     

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I just received the email from Sonos notifying me about the end of support for my 3 legacy Connect Amps and (stereo) Connect. I’m somewhat old school and don’t use streaming services, nor do I use any voice controlled devices. I only listen to music files either stored on my iPods or from my Apple computer using either the Sonos App or Occasionally (when it works!) iTunes Airplay. I live in the country and don’t have access to reliable high speed internet.

    After reading mixed reviews on the new upgraded Amps that Sonos is selling, I decided against upgrading.

    What do you all think: should I upgrade my Connect Amps or stick with the Legacy Connect Amps?

    To clarify: I don’t want to use streaming services, nor do I want to have anything to do with voice controlled devices… And I’m sticking with Apple computers. 

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    Rosebud
    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I’m in the same “this is how we reward our early adopters” boat, and not happy about it. Will be interesting to see how many customers are affected, and just how much outrage Sonos stirs up with this action. Equally troubling is the precedent they are setting in terms of future product support and programmed obsolescence. Many Class Action lawsuits have been generated over such issues.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I've just received an email from Sonos telling me that the brand new Connect:Amp purchased only one month ago, is about to be made a legacy product from May.  How can this possibly happen???

    Bizarrely, this is the newest of 5 Connect:Amps powering speakers around my home, the others having been bought between December 2017 and May 2018.  Yet the older connect amps have NOT been flagged in this email and all but the newest show in my account (system) as being modern products, with NO ‘Trade Up Eligible’ label next to them.  Only the newest Connect:Amp has the ‘Trade Up Eligible’ label showing against it (but also still showing the ‘Modern product label’).

    So could somebody please explain what is happening here?  I was told that only products manufactured before 2015 would be affected? 

    The 3 products bought in December 2017, all have serial numbers beginning with 1710 5CAAFDEXXXXXX, with the 4th Connect:Amp purchased in May 2018 beginning with 1801 5CAAFDEXXXXXX.  Given the most recent serial number begins with 1807 347E5C2XXXXXX, surely this would indicate this unit is the newest (logically it must be, having been purchased 18 to 24 months after the others)?  So what on earth is going on? Has anyone else experienced this?

    I would appreciate any advice other Sonos owners can offer who may have experienced similar ‘treatment’ from Sonos.  

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Hi Ryan

    Why are re-sellers still selling the Connect: and Connect:Amp?  These will become obsolete in less than 6 months.  To be continuing to sell these after the announcement you have just made, is (in my opinion) close to fraudulent activity, and certainly would not pass the “fit for purpose” test.

    Thanks

     

    No they won’t.  Only those sold before 2016 are obsolete. 

    Oh, that’s all right then.  Only obsolete after 4 years.   Yes, all the best consumer products are obsolete after 4 years. 

    The optics for Sonos here are truly awful across a number of dimensions.   

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Sonos simply had to take this action.  Developing the system and taking some of the earlier products along for the ride is simply not feasible, so limited is their memory and processing power.  The real flaw is the 30% discount, leaving many with the unpalatable choice between:

    1. Foregoing future updates (and still probably seeing a gradual deterioration in experience), and
    2. A hefty bill

    In past threads I have said that when the ZP80 eventually had to go, Sonos would be able to offer a generous discount on a Connect to smooth the transition.  (For Connect, now read Port.)  30% does not feel generous to me.  It might be just about OK for an ancient Bridge, ZP80 or ZP100.  But not, in my view, for a more recent Connect, Connect:Amp or gen 1 Play:5.

    Or, if you’ve moved country like I have to a non trade up location, you don’t even get the 30pc!

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    How do you turn off updates, period? My speakers need no updates and if they brick my hardware I’m going to be livid.

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