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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    OK, like all others i’m very upset with the fact this situation even exists and it screams of lack of effort (in practically every department) on the part of SONOS. 

    My major concern is the app you need to run the whole thing.  There is currently no way to download anything but the latest controller.  Smartphones do not last decades. So how would I control these legacy products once the controller is updated beyond the point my “legacy” system can talk to it?

    One accidental update to the app and whoops my legacy system is completely bricked

    Suggestion 1  : Fix the firmware so it can co-exist with newer items with limited function

    Suggestion 2 : Offer a decent discount.  How about you keep the 30% and give us the 70% instead

    Suggestion 3 : At least release the last compatible controller app separately to Play/App store so we can download the thing again on new devices

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    I joined the Sonos bandwagon 15 years ago and have been an evangelist ever since.   I have begun “recycling” some of my oldest components but finances prohibit a complete refresh of my zones in the next six months - particularly since my system consists of a lot of the higher priced components.  I’m perfectly happy to continue to “recycle” but the 30% discount doesn’t move the needle for me.  Threatening to limit my newer hardware from getting updates infuriates me.  Make this right Sonos.

    1. Give us some more time to get compliant with our older hardware.  One year minimum.. but I think more time is warranted.  
    2. How about some real incentive to upgrade our old components? How about your cost.. or 50% off?  Your loyal fan base has built your brand over the years long before you were advertising, don’t lose sight of that.  
    3. Please communicate a life cycle for your components.  How can I buy new hardware in good faith without a clear idea of when it will be deemed obsolete?  Until now the thought has never entered my mind that the soundbar I’m about to pay $700 for will have to be recycled in 5 years.  Today’s announcement is certainly a game changer.  
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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    You raise a good point. Good luck getting a clear answer.

     

     

    Clear answer is in the very first post of this thread.

    This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

     

    Like i said in my original post, “I think Sonos needs to get very clear what the intention is here and not have mixed messages all over and no more of this “We’ll have more information in May”” yes the first post says “will no longer receive software updates or new features.“ but then other places suggest otherwise. Its a messaging issue in my opinion although i do believe you are right that its the later of no updates. The fact Ryan has replied with “more info to come in May” i dont think Sonos even knows where they are going with this in the end.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    SONOS, your products are built like tanks, like brick ****houses, but now you’re turning them into actual bricks.  

    I got my Play5 maybe in 2014, three years apparently after it was already deemed walking dead. There was no mention of spending that much money on something that had the lifetime of a goldfish. I would have given it a pass. 

    But now you’ve got me thinking about recycling.

    Maybe I should recycle my ENTIRE system onto Kijiji and I can check out the plethora of alternatives that are now out there. I won’t be under anyone’s thumb.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    End of life after 8 years!  - Sonos is a fake company! I’m pleased to recycle (in the trash bin) my Sonos system since your incompetent HW/SW engineers can not provide a more future proof system… My next audio system is NOT a Sonos system... 

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    I own 19 Sonos devices including Playbar (x1), Amp (x1), Port (x1), Play:5 (x3), Play:3 (x1), Play:1 (x4), Sub (x2) , Connect:Amp (x2), and Play:5 Gen 1 (x3). 

    With this announcement, you’ve stated that you’ll no longer support updates to my newer Sonos products because my Play:5 Gen 1 (3) and Connect:Amp (2) devices aren’t “modern devices.”

    You’ve lost a “forever” customer. You’ve lost an advocate. You’ve lost a champion. And now you have a bitter former customer who will explain to anyone who asks why they should never buy a Sonos speaker. Those criticisms started today as I shared my story with 5000 Facebook friends. The moral of the story is simple. Don’t buy Sonos products because the company will eventually blackmail you to purchase new Sonos products or face forced obsolescence.

    I predict that this will be marked as the “we jumped the shark” day in Sonos history.

    I can’t remember the last time I was so furious at any company.

    Rob. I couldn’t have said it better. I feel exactly like you. I’ve been an advocate to so many people as I was a die hard forever customer. I have loved Sonos but receiving an email that my expensive products will no longer be supported via software upgrades and an offer of only 30% discount for the latest products is beyond disappointing and is clear that Sonos are in business for $ only and don’t care about their customers. I should have bought better known brands when I started in 2014 with “collecting” Sonos pieces. Little did I know I am buying future Duds! Sonos advertised: Sonos a system you can forever add to- well how can you lie like that. Shame on you Sonos. 

    Rob, spot on. I have 17 components , only three “Non Legacy”. Thank goodness I didn’t update my AV surround systems. From SONOS doing this so soon after the demise of my 1st generation controllers (compensation was meaningful on that round !! after several body blows). I now strongly suspect my whole system including three non legacy items will be rendered totally useless within 3 years max. Top line AV Brands are now up with Sonos so serious collectors/ listeners like you and me will move on and rightly so. Sad thing is SONOS NO LONGER CARES, they just want the volume and turnover from the young generation, and it is bollocks to the first adopters and Sonos promoters like you and me. The 30% off is a joke to trade up, with Sonos margins so rich they are still making serious profit from distressed clients. 

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Looks like it’s goodbye to Sonos. Three years I was able to use two 5’s, a Sub and a Bridge. Really loved the sound quality but I certainly would not “upgrade” regardless of a pathetic 30% off after the high price of the components I already purchased. 

    Unbelievable this is how Sonos chooses to do business. 

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    You lot are unbelievable. I will NEVER buy another america product. You SUCk,
    IM have German HiFi 30 years old still works. Japanese hi fi - Ditto
    UK Speakers 45 years old. Perfect (Just rrun in really)
    Canadian Speakers - ditto.

     

    I will get my revenge, Believe me !!

     

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Does anyone know why some Connect:Amps are legacy and some are not?  Is there a version 2.0 of these?  Wondering if the Connect Amps that I have that are currently labeled as non-legacy are good for now or if that’s an error. 

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    How to piss off your entire loyal, mostly satisfied customer base? Turn perfectly working products into landfill, threaten the stability of brand new (not legacy) products grouped in the same system, then offer a slap in the face 30% “trade up.” Sounds like extortion.

    **** move Sonos.

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