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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Sonos, You are effectively committing commercial suicide. You have been an upmarket brand with a loyal customer base who have been willing to purchase not inexpensive products. The quality and customer service has always been excellent. 

    Without competition attacking you or serious tech issues you are managing to send your company down a very dark road. I predict either a change in your strategy or a change in your senior management or maybe both if all of what you are proposing comes to fruition. 

    Disillusioned supporter.

    I agree. The ease of use is a major plus, but I think a lot of the cheaper options have narrowed that gap over the past few years (especially if you prefer voice control, which I can’t stand). The other reason I have bought so many Sonos products--and talked my friends into doing the same--is due to the excellent customer service. Now that the “customer first” reputation is ruined, I feel like I have very little loyalty to Sonos anymore. It’s a terrible decision from a customer service standpoint, from a business standpoint, and from an environmental standpoint. I just got one of the Sonos/Ikea lamps-speaker combos, but it's still unopened, so I think I’ll probably return it while I consider my options.

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    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    I shall not be paying your ransom you will not see another £ from me so kill my system.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    It is a bad thing to brick audio devices that you sold only 5 years ago, but it is unconscionable to also use them as “Trojan Horses” to bring down entire connected systems of a dozen devices, some of which were new releases only months ago.  Your job is to figure out how to make the technology work together even if you can’t continue to add new features.  

    My expensive Apple Display and Time Capsule Router (both of which were discontinued years ago as technology improved) still work perfectly fine with the new laptop that I bought last month.  If you are a technology company, it is your responsibility to make the technology work, especially considering your pricing model.  Remember you chose to enter a venue that respects and brags about respecting round disks of plastic.  We respect things that last. 

    No wonder Google tricked you. Good luck with that lawsuit. I’d bet on Google. 

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Good Afternoon,

     

    I have been a Sonos user and fan for over a decade.  I have sold Sonos products consistently during this time, both professionally and as a non-commissioned consumer convincing friends and family how wonderful of a product it is.

     

    I have 17 zones in my home.  Of those 17 zones, 12 of them are affected by this news.  This is incredibly disappointing and disheartening.  I was under the impression that these were long term investments.  The realization that over $6,000 of investments in our home will soon be obsolete is a very tough pill to swallow.  I realize that they will continue to work for an undisclosed amount of time, but the day that our system suddenly no longer works will be a huge punch to the gut (not to mention the wallet).

     

    In my humble opinion, 30% is not enough of a discount - especially for people that have been buying, pushing and supporting your products since 2008.  Perhaps consider some sort of “bulk recycle” deal or something for people that need to recycle more than 3 or 5 units to remain current.

     

    I saw the news this morning and the announcement was well crafted and the reality of the situation does make sense after they have explained it.  However, the reality of the situation for an individual or family, especially ones as deeply invested as I am, is just massively disappointing.  Furthermore, it would really have been nice to know this information years ago, as while it does make sense today based on the explanation provided, this was not in any way news I would have been able to forecast, as I was (apparently falsely) under the impression that these devices and investments would only be limited by the natural degradation of hardware, not the implications of evolving software.

     

    I am very sad about this news and will need to take some time to seriously think about how to best plan for the future of music and entertainment in our home.

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    jgatie
    January 21, 2020

    Does anyone know why some Connect:Amps are legacy and some are not?  Is there a version 2.0 of these?

     

    There was no formal designation, but it seems later models were equipped with more memory and processor power.  

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    User811083
    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Just checked my system and it turns out that Sonos are asking me to replace the following:

    1 x Play: 5

    6 x Connects

    1 x Connect amp

    2 x Bridges

    That’s ten hardware units in total that Sonos want to consign to landfill and will cost me £2,600.00 including the trade in! Absolutely unacceptable!

    I am not in the least reassured by messages from Sonos saying that everything will still work fine after May. We know it won’t. Countless times I have had to upload new Sonos software at the most inconvenient times and the prospect of an update that kills my system is unthinkable. Sonos have really shot themselves in the foot here.

     

     

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    Chris Blackwell
    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    OK. Fine. I understand. However, I’m trying to participate in the trade up program and the Sonos web site doesn’t apply the credits to my purchase. Trying to get sales help is fruitless. I’m either on hold forever, dealing with chat agents who can’t help me, or trying the trade up phone number listed (mid day Tuesday) to receive a message that the office is closed with a hangup. 

    Sure is tough to do business with you guys lately.

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    Avid Contributor III
    January 21, 2020

    so apparently I have 10 legacy items out of 20 listed on my account

     

    so again sonos shaft us good customers

     

    even have my three cr100 still on my account that sonos wouldn't honor their £100 credit as they only allowed more than one rebate but then went ahead and moved the goalposts but only for certain people and gave rebate galore

     

    my last 5 x play 5 s2 will be my last sonos purchase

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    So today i received my trade up email notification that my first gen play 5 will no longer receive updates come May 2020. Not only will it stop receiving the updates but my entire system will no longer receive updates as well. Currently i have: 1 Beam; 2 amps; 1 play one; 1 play 5 gen 1 and 1 play 5 gen 2. Needless to say i have been a fan. I must say though, that this trade up notification pisses me off to no end. The fact that my perfectly working play 5 gen 1 will keep the rest of my system from receiving updates is ridiculous. I can say with certainty that if I do decide to pull my play 5 gen 1 so that my system continues to receive updates i will more than likely not replace it….or most certainly go with the cheaper SL instead...why to go Sonos…...alienate your loyal customers….The fact that Sonos cant update new gen devices if old gen device share the network is ridiculous. If you can develope a software update to brick old devices you can certainly come up with a fix to only update the speakers and devices that can take them. i will have to give serious thought to considering any future expansion of my system...

     

    Frustrated fan

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    MAscooby
    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I agree that blocking updates to newer devices that are co-mingled with legacy devices is a last straw decision. None of the suggested or likely methods to make old and new devices play nicely together approach being acceptable for a system like Sonos that’s built around music-anywhere and interoperability.
     

    On the plus side, I suppose, I’ve been debating whether to expand my investment through a 5.1 system or two, throwing down for some 5s and subs.


    Given this move, I can say with confidence that I’ve made my last Sonos purchase and will be focusing on other options integrated with roon.

     

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