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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Contributor II
    January 21, 2020

    WOW - just WOW.  Thank you Sonos I was really struggling with what to do with so many new options that work better with Airplay on the market. Now I know I better start selling off all my SONOS because I’m sure next year my Playbar, Sub, and and Play 1s will be “Legacy” along with my Play5.  I’ve always hated that damn app but now you’ve given me the push I needed to put end to my relationship with you guys.  I can’t believe you clowns think this is the way to treat customers.  Someday soon some Businessweek journalist will write and article about “How SONOS died” and this will be the day they point to.  Congrats!  You’ve made history!

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Two 5 and a bridge in my garage, one 5 in my garden room and one bridge and amp in my living room. I almost bought two one, sub and playbar for my tv this Christmas but decided to wait a little bit. Now I’m happy I didn’t. If I should go for upgrade with 30% discount of all it will be expensive and all my brackets for amp, bridges and play 5 need to be also changed out… those are expensive as well. I’m really disappointed because I thought I had invested in a good system that would last for more than this. I think I will let it go as far it can and then look into other when time comes when it won’t work any more. Solution will be to by speakers with wire again and only use a amp with streaming possibilities, then at least I can still have my speakers and only need to upgrade amp or whatever streaming unit. I don’t through out money or things that working perfectly.

    sorry SONOS!

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    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    SONOS just screwed its long-time customers. I have 13 SONOS units. Today, SONOS sent an email announcing that 10 of the units will no longer get software updates as of May 2020. So, if any music service,  MS Windows, or Apple makes a security change after May 2020 that the existing software doesn’t agree with, then my system will stop operating.  The replacement cost of these 10 units is $4,650 and even with 30% offered for trade-ins, my outlay to keep my system operating will be $3,255. SONOS’s management should keep a software update track for “legacy” equipment in order for existing functionality to remain working.

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    jgatie
    January 21, 2020

    I want to add my displeasure to the way this has been handled.  I have been a loyal Sonos customer with a Beam, 2 Playbars, a playbase and multiple zp100’s and Connect AMPs.  I recently moved and purchases a bunch of new Connect: Amp players 2 years ago.  Now I find they are going to be outdated and need replaced for me to have full function from the rest of my system.  I know nothing lasts for ever, and I have no complaints related to my 6-10 year old equipment.  Not only can I only get 30% back on the old (2 years) equipment, they recently bumped the price on the replacements not allowing me to take advantage of the older price point.  Now faced with the prospect of spending several thousand dollars on replacing 2 year old players I am thinking I will move on to a different technology and a different company.  

    Again, I am fine with the discounted price on 5+ year old items, but I paid the premium sonos prices because I want quality and durability.  30% off on 2 year old items that are sunset is completely unnaceptable!

     

    Connect:Amps bought 2 years ago are not affected.  

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    User811083
    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    If SONOS doesn't release some sort of positive news on this I am going to go on an absolute social media frenzy…

     


    Already done it ...

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    Chris Blackwell
    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    +2 to the outrage outrage. Way too much money into my Sonos system (which is all less than 5 years old) to become obsolete. If it reaches a point where I have to spend thousands to upgrade my equipment just to continue to use its current functionality I certainly won't be buying new Sonos equipment... I'm very happy with what I have now and have no need for further "innovation" if it means bricking thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Please continue support of your products, even if it requires a "legacy" platform and app.

    (+2 because my parents in the same boat..)

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    What about the Sub? It came out in 2012 so it seems like it’s right on the line. I am considering using my 30% off from my soon-to-be-bricked Connect:Amp to get a sub but I am concerned with its age.

     

    Sub doesn’t do much, it just receives and plays a signal.  So the memory requirements are paltry compared to a player which needs to store settings/index/playlists, access tracks, do voice control, etc.  

    Such crap - a Connect doesn’t need to do voice control either, and I’d be more happy if some things were disabled for it, and it alone - but holding the whole system to ransom is inexcusable.

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    So I am wondering how long it will be before my lovely Sonos system that I have collected over the years will be some nice looking junk!

    Sonos sent me the here is the list of your system that will get no more updates.  Oh, and by the way we are just going to leave them high and dry after an unnamed period.

    So the era of clever speakers is over for me.  It will be back to streaming through a computer and a set of speakers on amplifiers.

    No way Ill ever buy a clever speaker or amp again.  What a massive disappointment.  I though the initial press coverage would have put Sonos off.  I expect them to go bankrupt now quite quickly.  

     

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    jgatie
    January 21, 2020

    +2 to the outrage outrage. Way too much money into my Sonos system (which is all less than 5 years old) to become obsolete. If it reaches a point where I have to spend thousands to upgrade my equipment just to continue to use its current functionality I certainly won't be buying new Sonos equipment... I'm very happy with what I have now and have no need for further "innovation" if it means bricking thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Please continue support of your products, even if it requires a "legacy" platform and app.

    (+2 because my parents in the same boat..)

     

    Anything less than 5 years old should be fine.  

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    January 21, 2020

    And this is educational, I’ll have to be sure to understand next time how much of the “smarts” sits with the speaker and is subject to these kind of end of life decisions.

    Yes, it is very educational and makes the case for split systems with cheap smart front ends that are throwaway, and “dumb” stereo set ups that have service lives of decades that can keep accepting a smarter front end every 3-4 years.

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