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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 22, 2020

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Lyricist II
January 23, 2020

Add me to the growing list of unhappy customers who will no longer buy additional hardware from Sonos. The negative comments are starting to appear on review pages of retailers so that should help others avoid feeling like mugs taken for a ride. It is BS that an elegant solution cannot be found to the memory/processor issue. The new intro of the “trade up” a few months ago was clearly part of a well thought through “fleece the customer” road map.

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

Yes, adding myself to the growing list of formally enthusiastic customers who won’t spend another penny with Sonos. Sonos - you’ve had a shockingly bad approach to dealing with the legit tech issues and to working with your customers and the environment. 

Kicking it down the road to May (really?!!) is just bonkers. Good luck with future sales and the share price...

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Enthusiast I
January 23, 2020

I have designed many home theater systems and I have recommended sonos to my customers for many years.  This is outrageous.  I will never recommend sonos to anybody again.  This is outrageous and frankly deeply upsetting to me. All about $$$ that’s all. 

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

This is going to be a great marketing case study soon about how a once promising company ticked off their most dedicated customers and either rapidly spiraled down to irrelevance, or did the right thing and rolled back this crazy action. Let's see which way it goes.

 

 

Bang On!  The arrogance behind the way this has been implemented is shocking!

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Prodigy II
January 23, 2020

Mmmmmm….I’m pretty sure this isn’t working out the way Sonos envisioned. What were they thinking??????

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Contributor I
January 23, 2020

Like many others, I will not buy another Sonos product. My Play 5 purchased in 2017 now legacy !! With the amount of Sonos products I own and the amount of money spent I have to cut my losses now. Which one of the other 10 Sonos products I own is next ?
 

I have been a real advocate for Sonos, but no more. VERY cross & disappointing. 

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Enthusiast II
January 23, 2020

30% off retail price doesn’t end up being much of a discount at all - besides which a guarantee of a five year life is too low for the price of the equipment. Add to that I feel like I can’t trust Sonos after this so I’d bend over backwards to find another solution in future.

 

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Lyricist II
January 23, 2020

This is going to be a great marketing case study soon about how a once promising company ticked off their most dedicated customers and either rapidly spiraled down to irrelevance, or did the right thing and rolled back this crazy action. Let's see which way it goes.

 

 

Bang On!  The arrogance behind the way this has been implemented is shocking!

The Sonos management are probably thinking that planned obsolescence hasn’t hurt Apple’s share price. Trouble is Apple continue to innovate to make the occasional upgrade worthwhile.  Sonos kit does not have a similar range of development paths, it just plays music. Sonos is above all else a brand, a brand that was just severely damaged by an own goal. Shorting the stock is probably a good move. I note the CEO worked for 14 years at Blackberry, history repeating itself?

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Enthusiast II
January 23, 2020

Mmmmmm….I’m pretty sure this isn’t working out the way Sonos envisioned. What were they thinking??????

Taking Loyal Customers for Granted

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Renowned Enthusiast II
January 23, 2020

Please explain what you mean when you say that you will support products that you sell for at least 5 years.  I bought a CONNECT:AMP in 2018 to add to the 3 CONNECT:AMPS ans 2 CONNECTS that I bought in 2015 (less than 5 years ago - but it will be 5 years in May when you discontinue support).  If the one I bought in 2018 is still “Modern”, why aren’t the others?

There were apparently some hardware changes without a corresponding device name change. Sonos realizes this was a very bad idea and probably won’t do it again.

According to my sources the original Connect and Play 5 had 32mb of memory, the connect:amp and play 1 have 64. The newer connect has 256mb as does the Gen 2 play 5.
The newest models have 1024mb (1 gig) so it is safe to say that the older models with 64 and 256mb are likely not long for this world. And when 1 gb is not enough, they will get tossed too. This will NEVER end and the cost of ownership it through the roof. 

Posted by another forum member (apologies I can’t locate that original post… it’s a swirling vortex of post activity the past 48 hrs.)

Oh how I now wish I’d purchased my Connects just 13 months later.


It’s precisely this kindof chart which would prevent me replacing my Gen 1 Play:5 with a Gen 2 as surely that (and my existing Play:3’s) are going to hit the same issues soon. 

 

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