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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 22, 2020

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Chromatic Producer I
January 23, 2020

I am interested to know what new features SONOS intend to introduce that render legacy (as they like to call it) speakers redundant? Mine play music now? 

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Lyricist III
January 23, 2020

It’s beginning to look a lot like Ratner’s….

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

What a fantastic way to treat your customers, well done Sonos

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Trending Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

So… lets have a look at this.

“Legacy devices” will stop receiving updates in May but *could* continue working with the services you use for many years…

 

and the reason they will stop working is likely api changes or such from the music streaming services.

Isnt it great then that they are targetting google and amazon in law courts.  Now if i was in charge at  Amazon i might consider changing the api/streaming format from June effectively rendering that service useless on those devices and who will users blame… probably not Amazon.   Kinda handing your competitors the power to really influence the satisfaction of your most lotal early adopting customers.

 

 

hmmmm… not very smart

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Virtuoso
January 23, 2020

I'm sure all my kit will be on the chopping block for "Phase 2" redundancy (Playbar, Play:1s Play:3 etc).

Whats the most shocking part of all this is the distain whith which Sonos have treated all it's "early" adopters.

This Phase 1 Hardware cull (that's reall what it is), has not only pissed off all the owners of the early hardware BUT sent a clear message to all Sonos owners that we really are just a commodity.

All the talk of Legacy systems been split off and Silo'd, the whole Ideal behind Sonos that is it's a Whole Home Sytem!. What's the point have having your house split down the middle due to hardware build date?.

This truely is a shocking turn of events and I doubt anyone on here will be investing in more Players given the fact they could be hung out to dry when Sonos deems it so.

You really have damaged the brand (possibly beyond repair) at this point.

Then there's the environmental cost, binning hundreds of thousands of perfectly servicable units, just absolute madness.

Problem is though if Sonos go under due to their own stupidity ALL our systems will be basically scrap. You couldn't make it up..

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chickentender
January 23, 2020

Very unimpressed by this decision by sonos. 
They should be looking at possible ways and costs to be upgrade the older speakers with better processor etc. 
this would be more environmental and speaker’s would not be thrown away in half hearted attempt at recycling. Sonos would be part of the proper recycling of their speakers. In other words they would reduce electronic waste. 
if a speaker has broken other components then the decision to scrap it would be the owners. 
 

with the current legacy idea in May I gather that  my older equipment will stop future updates to my whole system. In that case I will be happy to stay with sonos update I have. I can use the system as it is. I guess I can add to the system by buying older speakers which will now be plummeting in price as they won’t update. 

this is devaluing sonos’s reputation  too!!
 

overall sonos should find better solutions 

You know what… I never considered this brilliant option! I could care less about voice control and other features. My Sonos system does what I want already. This could be an incredible 2nd-hand upgrade path for expanding a legacy system.

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chickentender
January 23, 2020

Sonos: I don’t need my old gear to forever act as a streamer for future music services. But I do expect newer Sonos gear to know how to room share music to older Sonos gear, forever.

The same way my Amp’s line-in can share music with my Play:1 that has no line-in.

If I have to buy a new product every few years to maintain an entry point for modern streaming services, fine, but all my older powered speakers need to inter operate with that newer Sonos product. Otherwise, you’ve lost your vendor lock-in and my perception of Sonos value is plummeting.

This is everything, succinctly put.

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January 23, 2020

You know what… I never considered this brilliant option! I could care less about voice control and other features. My Sonos system does what I want already. This could be an incredible 2nd-hand upgrade path for expanding a legacy system.

Lol, true. Watch out though against getting ripped of with a unit that has been selected online for recycling!

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chickentender
January 23, 2020

You know what… I never considered this brilliant option! I could care less about voice control and other features. My Sonos system does what I want already. This could be an incredible 2nd-hand upgrade path for expanding a legacy system.

Lol, true. Watch out though against getting ripped of with a unit that has been recycled!

No doubt.

“Let’s go ahead and see you connect to it powered on with the mobile controller, please/thanks...”

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

I am disgusted by this announcement. I have spent thousands of pounds on Sonos products to be told that some will no longer be supported and my WHOLE SYSTEM will not be supported if the legacy products remain connected. How to DESTROY a great product in one announcement?

 

Can future customers have any confidence that this won’t happen again? 

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