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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 22, 2020

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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4256 replies

Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

Like many other long time Sonos advocates I’m disappointed with the announcement and not inclined to consider staying with the brand.  I will be selling what I have for whatever I can get and looking to invest my money in an alternative.

 

Best 

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Lyricist II
January 23, 2020

I am so embarrassed. I spent so many years recommending (badgering) family and friends to go the Sonos route only to receive so many ‘OMG’ and ‘WTF’ emails from them yesterday. Makes me so sick… 

After May, no additional controllers (unless a legacy app is created and managed) and streaming services will begin to stop. Spotify et. al. will make a simple change to a security protocol and poof...gone.

Sonos should clearly stamp an End of Life date on each product. Set expectations and be straight with people.      

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

If you think I’ll ever buy another Sonos product after you orphan my system,  you misjudge.  

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Lyricist II
January 23, 2020

As I said earlier, “Legacy” devices currently stream from other Sonos units, so why shouldn’t they be able to in the future -- unless Sonos doesn’t want them to!  So any claim of potential technical issues with keeping Legacy players in the same network is 100% Bull$$$hit.

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Lyricist I
January 23, 2020

Like a lot of people I have invested heavily in older and newer Sonos products over a period of time to enjoy a great product for my whole house. Hopefully with all the responses on the forum they will use some common sense and provide an alternative approach for the many of us in the same circumstances.  

 

Sonos - don’t destroy your loyal and supported customers, without us Sonos wouldn’t exist!

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Contributor I
January 23, 2020

I have 1 x Playbar, 1 x Sub, 4 x Play 1, 1 x Play 5 (Gen1), 1 x Connect Amp, 1 x Boost, 2 x One SL.

 

The Connect Amp I only purchased on sale Summer 2018 and is now legacy! Along with 2 others (5 and Boost) and potentially more to follow. FFS!

Then offered £30 to upgrade something I purchased for around £375 only 6 months ago! Kick me when I’m down, why don’t you!

 

I have been getting peed off with Apple and their attitude to older products, thinking its back to Windows on the next computer and now Sonos come out with this shenanigans. Now they move in this direction, will they too gradually force the degradation in performance with their products as Apple have been found to do previously?

 

I absolutely loved the wireless attributes and lack of cables particularly with hard floors through out my Condo and like others recommending it to everyone, but now ceiling re-work to install a wired system would appear to be a much cheaper option.

I can’t afford to keep investing and upgrading with the possibility of it all stop working because one day someone sitting in an executive office somewhere decides that is the end of it and I am not allowed to listen to music anymore through my purchased products. 

 

Another thing concerning me is I am now reading articles about I have only bought a licence. No-one selling me the speakers ever told me I was only buying a licence, otherwise I would not have bought any of them. I bought a speaker to listen to music through without the need for cables to replace my other wired speakers.

 

I can only be grateful I held off on buying 2 new play 5’s. Time to go back to a normal wired hi-fi for my listening pleasures and normal wired surround sound for movies. I will have enough left over to buy a tape deck, cd player and rebuild my entire music collection! 

 

Bloody angry but also excited about checking out resourcing and purchasing the hard wired equipment!

Rant over!

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chickentender
January 23, 2020

I just wanted to put down this quote from the most-liked comment in the discussion section of this NYT article here…. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/technology/sonos-sues-google.html

It would be apropos that Sonos take a good long glance at the sentiment offered here… again, the most liked sentiment in the comments-wake of a piece which covers their current legal proceedings against Google. 

 

All the competing services coexist in the Sonos ecosystem. It's an old internet beauty of pluralism where you forge an independent path across multiple services listening for the perfect song or podcast. There are streamjng services if you want but there's old school channel surfing too. There was a pride in discovering a new artist that doesn't exist with algorithmically delivered music -- that wonder of discovery. Sonos has at it's core a clear-eyed mission that hasn't strayed; they do one thing right. They have kept on mission making fantastic smart speakers and supporting their old products. In stark contrast to Google, who has amnesia for last week's service or product. They are high-end speakers that play beautiful sound and work seamlessly and grow across technical generations without interoperability issues. I couldn't be more impressed. If Sonos goes under, despite having a better product, solid IP, and reasonable pricing, some big tech company will cannibalize them and make an inferior product that gets lost in their consuming vision and then later abandoned as a commodity. So you go get them, David! Goliath could be knocked down a peg or two.

-Chris, in Utah

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inopinatus
Prominent Collaborator I
January 23, 2020

This “clarification” just confirms everyone’s understanding, so things are not better.

You guys are just begging to get crushed by the ACCC, like every other product company that tried to pull a fast one.

It’s like you’ve never even looked at consumer protection law outside of the Santa Barbara enclave.

 

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uncooked meat prior to state vector collapse
Enthusiast II
January 23, 2020

As I said earlier, “Legacy” devices currently stream from other Sonos units, so why shouldn’t they be able to in the future -- unless Sonos doesn’t want them to!  So any claim of potential technical issues with keeping Legacy players in the same network is 100% Bull$$$hit.

There is no rhyme or reason for this. Even to paint it as some hardware issue is wrong.

All devices are able to stream like they did since the start. If there are issues those are software related and if so desired there is a software solutions for it. 

It seems more like a bad marketing ploy to push new hardware to existing system owners

for a very bad discount

 

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Lyricist III
January 23, 2020

Create a Sonos “Lemon Law”?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_law

 

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