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January 15, 2020

Logitech Media Server - 3rd party addition for Sonos devices

  • January 15, 2020
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LMS offers some interesting features which you can use alongside the standard Sonos setup.  Using LMS requires that you install the server software on a networked device (eg. a PC running Windows, iOS, or Linux, and even some NAS) - a popular choice is the Raspbery Pi (even including the ultra-cheap Pi Zero at 20 USD).   Installing the software is a task for an average user (and is largely accomplished via a web-browser interface).  Once installed, Sonos devices are seen by LMS as squeezebox players, and have full access to all the features which the server software offers.

Why might you consider this as an addition to your Sonos system?   Here are some pros:

  1.  LMS is complementary to the native Sonos setup.  You do not lose any Sonos features.
  2.  LMS is multi-platform.   Media control is also multi-platform (via web--browser access).   Apps are also available for both Android and iOS (either free or at low cost.
  3. There is no limit for local music libraries
  4. Offers access to Spotify, Qobuz, Tidal and Deezer streaming.  You can also access one of the UK’s most popular radio services, with listen again features!  Podcasts are also available.
  5. A recent addition (in beta) integrates local music library with your Spotify library (albums and playlists).   Probable that Qobuz and other streaming will be integrated)

An active and very supportive community forum

… and a couple of cons:

  • Additional cost (if necessary)
  • Initial installation effort

 

I’m offering this brief overview in a spirit of cooperation and sharing.   Maybe somebody will find it interesting and useful.

It is not intended to decry or compete with the base Sonos system..

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38 replies

melvimbe
January 15, 2020

I’ve heard LMS mentioned previously, but never seen a summary of what it can do.  Thanks for that.

 

I primarily use Amazon, Pandora, and Sirius XM for streaming.  If I did setup a local library I wouldn’t be approaching Sonos limits.  I use voice, android, and rarely windows for control.  So, LMS doesn’t really have any features that I could take advantage personally.

Danny
castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
January 15, 2020

Not sure about Pandora or Sirius …. there’s an alexa skill for voice, and several android controllers.   

But each to their own!

Cheers

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castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
January 17, 2020

LMS does offer Pandora … but not Sirius nor Amazon.

It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -
chicks
January 26, 2020

LMS.  Ugh.  Had too many years of that buggy mess.  The UI is still horribly outdated.  Written in Perl IIRC - talk about outdated.  If you really want to deal with an in-home server, try Roon, supposed to be much more refined, and supports Sonos speakers as endpoints.

castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
January 28, 2020

LMS.  Ugh.  Had too many years of that buggy mess.  The UI is still horribly outdated.  Written in Perl IIRC - talk about outdated.  If you really want to deal with an in-home server, try Roon, supposed to be much more refined, and supports Sonos speakers as endpoints.

You are missing the material skin (works both for mobile and webgui). 

I’ve just installed LMS on a pi zero w - works a treat and fast enough.  Currently have 6 connected devices (1 Touch player, 1 Radio, 3 chromecasts, 1 sonos Beam). Mixed streaming including Tunein, BBC iPlayer, Pocketcasts, Qobuz.

I suggest you are mis-informed about the current capabilties of LMS.

And it’s free unlike the 100+ GBP per year charged by Roon.  

It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -
castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
January 28, 2020

Just switched on speaker 7 (Roberts S1) - playing nicely alongside all the others … no bugs here.

It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -
chicks
February 6, 2020

So, pulled the old MyBookLive NAS out of storage.  It still has an older version of LMS installed on it.  Unfortunately (like Sonos is planning), the hardware has been unsupported by Western Digital for years now.  Worse, it's using an ancient PowerPC CPU,  which the Perl repositories have even abandoned. 

 So, had to point apt to the archive repositories, as LMS wouldn't update with the current ones.  This pulled down an ancient, very insecure version of the SSL library, but at least LMS updated.  However, github,  where the Material skin is hosted, won't allow this ancient, insecure SSL version to connect.   I well remember several years ago going through the massive update on thousands of servers, and tens of thousands of laptops at Megacorp for this very issue, the TLS 1.3 update,

Was finally able to manually install the Mobile skin, which is ok for phones and tablets, not so great on desktops.

Now, I'm a techie,  with decades of experience with Unix command lines, yet it took me hours to get even this far.  Your average Sonos owner wouldn't have even attempted this.  

After all that, with the Chromecast and UPnP bridges installed, it does unify Sonos with my old Squeezebox Radio, my Google devices, and the KEiiD renderer into a single UI, usable, but hardly as good as the Sonos app in numerous respects.  And, despite being able to group some of the devices, they're rarely in synch,  often off by more than a second.  Ugh.

 

 

chicks
February 6, 2020

OK, finally was able to install the Material interface by downloading the zip, copying it to the ancient NAS, unzipping in the appropriate directory, going through a couple of LMS restarts… lol.  Again, not something your average Sonos user would even begin to do.

However, it has given me a very nice way to control my speakers from my ChromeBox, finally, so thanks for the suggestion!

 

 

castallaAuthor
Local Superstar
February 6, 2020

Just get a 20 dollar pi - you’re attempting to mix patrol and diesel - no wonder it’s clunky!

It's the courageous bee's knees - all 6 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝. - - - - - Make Sonos Great Again - - - - -
chicks
February 6, 2020

Just get a 20 dollar pi - you’re attempting to mix patrol and diesel - no wonder it’s clunky!

Hmmm.  So the Sonos users who are being “legacy-ized” should “just get a new Sonos” then?