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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 22, 2020

End of Software Support - Clarifications

End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Lyricist I
January 22, 2020

I have over $4,000 in Sonos equipment, almost all of which was bought new in 2014-2015, and just announced to be now obsolete after barely 5 years. 

I was an early adopter of Sonos despite their sky-high pricing, and had been a huge supporter and beta tester for them since the beginning.  However, learning that Sonos is leaving their earliest, most devoted customers like me out in the cold is maddening.  Sonos had a rabid cult following which is why it thrived despite so much competition in their market, and they just kicked that rabid following squarely in the nuts.

I guess the bright side is that since my whole system is being obsoleted simultaneously, that will make the decision to switch to a whole different ecosystem like Bose or Amazon much easier.  

Contributor I
January 22, 2020

Happy to add my fury to this, over £1,500 of kit will be “useless” in May!!

This isn’t why I invested lots of hard earned money with Sonos - did I read the company was sold on last year due to the high level of commitment of customers who carry on buying new product.  How long until the Sub, Play3 or Soundbar are “legacy”? Well this customer won't buy any more Sonos products and I will happily advise any who ask and those who don’t not to touch Sonos with a barge pole.

davidsjones76
Contributor I
January 22, 2020

Hello to Sonos and their community.

I haven’t read every single comment on this thread, but it would seem that a lot of people are unhappy. My comment, for what it’s worth, is that I bear no animosity towards Sonos. It is inevitable that this will happen to every “smart” device at some point. Sonos, are just the first to do it. To name a few, we have had Bose, Yamaha, Denon, and B&O speakers over the last couple of years. We were in search of superior sound and only found it in Sonos. Where Bose is concerned, they do have a relatively good sound, but the software and services that are included in both their SoundTouch, and Smart devices, is incredibly limited. We had many negative experiences, with every device, until we bought Sonos. Yes, their “legacy” announcement was a shock, but it is not going to be the only company to do this. Sonos are just the first to do it. The hardware in their “legacy” devices, has simply reached its limit and can no longer be “confidently” updated. If Sonos are to remain ahead of their competitors, in a saturated market, then they have to make controversial and difficult decisions such as this.

Lyricist I
January 22, 2020

What a disgrace.  I’ve purchased and love a lot of your products.  I didn’t mind the higher price compared to the MANY options available because yours just plain old works every time.  Now however, you’ve decided to take away the one true reason for the premium price for me.  30% off?!  Thanks for the coupon.  Please reconsider and maintain your premium status to us, your loyal customers.

Lyricist I
January 22, 2020

This is insane, how to turn me off a brand. I have 2x subs, 4 x 5’s, 2x 3’s, 4x 1’s, 2x Amps, 2x connects, 1x beam, 1x playbar, 1x playbase and offering me only 30% for a trade up. Sorry Sonos you just lost me.

 

Shame on you!

Lyricist II
January 22, 2020

I’m here to register my disappointment for the second time since the first thread has been closed.  I had thought about adding a move to my system and it would have been conveniently located close to two legacy play 5 units.  Very reluctant now if they won’t work together.

:angry:

 

Enthusiast II
January 22, 2020

I notice @Ryan S seems to have gone home, either that or there is a serious brainstorming meeting going on at head office, on how to get out of this mess.

Lyricist I
January 22, 2020

I’ve never posted to a site but am so frustrated by this move that I want to leave my feedback. 

 

I have a Bose surround system but decided to migrate to Sonos and purchased three play 5’s knowing that down the road I’d replace my entire Bose system with Sonos.  I won’t be doing that.  Instead, I regret the Sonos equipment purchase.  Wish I had stuck with Bose and have now decided to replace Sonos instead.  The fact that Sonos will no longer support my two “older” play 5’s results in my entire system not being able to accept updates is not acceptable and I feel like I wasted my $1,500 buying the three speakers.  Not only will I not be replacing my surround theater with Sonos, I will now instead be replacing my Sonos speakers with Bose.

Lyricist II
January 22, 2020

I like many others have recommended Sonos to others. I can’t do that again. Some of my friends are non-technical and what do I tell them now they have to spend 70% of the cost again for new kit. I have 12 speakers, my kids have Sonos and we are all now wondering “when are we next”. I have an internet radio from 2005 that still works just fine, I have a Linn hi-fi from 1995 that still sounds fantastic, perhaps cheaper devices, regular hi-fi and Bluetooth are the future. I am now in the “maybe that’s enough investment in expensive Sonos” group. 

Someone else suggested Sonos need to think about branching their codebase into those that want updates but have “legacy” products and that code base maintain support for what we have and a separate branch for those that only have new products. 

 

In the end, the “contract” people made with Sonos was we would pay massively over typical speak pricing, but Sonos would look after us, the equipment and future-proofing our (substantial) investment. Perhaps they should try a 70% trade-up discount, rather than 30%. 

Contributor I
January 22, 2020

When I walk through my home and notice one of my Sonos devices, I get angry all over again. I have 18 devices. They’re in almost every room. Even my bathroom. Awesome.