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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Disgusting build Up already a expensive system  bit by bit and then get to see this, tech guys I works with have pulled out before buying after doing some research this may be the end of Sonos. If that happens our newer gear will be left without any updates etc 😡

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    My own post, having replied to another one which made me see red!!!

    As a Connect owner, I have to agree with others who have expressed concern that the equivalent upgrade is nowhere near as good quality as the equipment I have already.

    That said, no ‘legacy’ owner should ever be put in a position where their products are rendered potentially unusable over time.  Whatever technological development occurs, past products should be respected and at least allowed to function without any need to reinvest in any other product unless the CUSTOMER wishes to do so.

    Sonos is clearly forgetting it’s founding customer base that put the company on the map.  

    My daughter is getting married this year (Jaguar now on hold, fathers of daughters about to be married will understand this one), I am forced to do an essential home upgrade to preserve the integrity of my home - this week as it happens.

    At no time did I ever think that I may have to consider paying for a replacement product that simply doesn’t need replacing at a time when I can least afford it.  30% trade in is an insult to those who supported Sonos in the first place.

    And those who can’t understand the anger (and there are many posts here that justifiably express such anger), just try for once to understand those of us who are really pissed off with Sonos right now for the decision taken to label us a ‘Legacy owners’ and effectively force an upgrade that isn't wanted. 

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    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    I have 13 SONOS units, including Gen1 Play 5’s. Today, SONOS sent an email announcing that 10 of the units will no longer get software updates as of May 2020. So, if any music service,  MS Windows, or Apple makes a security change after May 2020 that the existing software doesn’t agree with, then my system will stop operating.

     

    The replacement cost of these 10 units is $4,650 and even with 30% offered for trade-ins, my outlay to keep my system operating will be $3,255.

     

    When Microsoft and others force an upgrade, to say, Windows 10, the upgrade is free. If you can’t do that because the issue is inadequate amount of memory for future firmware upgrades, then I would suggest doing what the router and NAS companies do, and have two update paths … including one for “legacy’ products so at least existing functionality would remain working with critical security updates, etc..

     

    The installed base of legacy SONOS equipment must be huge and I have no intention of being forced to replace SONOS equipment with SONOS. If I started over with a new non-SONOS system, it would be cheaper than SONOS. Based on what is in the SONOS Community board, I am not the only one who thinks this way.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    This is NOT RIGHT!!! 

     Your company needs to create a better solution for those of us who were early adopters, who bought early and often because we believed in your company and its products. a 30 percent discount on replacement equipment is a benefit….to your own company. not to me! 

    If you must...create a second “class” of owners to protect us and our investment in your products. But the letter you sent is arrogant at best. Do better or say bye bye while I say “hello (Siri)” to any of the recent knockoffs of your product. “Hey Alexa”.

     

    This is 

    .:poop:

     

     

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Per the announcement, these products were INTRODUCED between 2009 and 2011. However, Play 5 Gen 1 and Connect were sold as recently as 2015! They are barely 4 years old. Like many others, I have a lot invested in Sonos and this is very disappointing support. I am going to seriously rethink my commitment to the brand.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I can’t believe that Sonos will have removed all support by the end of 2020. I have spent 10 years putting together my collection of amps and speakers, helped with the Beta tests and recommended the system to so many people.

     

    After 20 years of supporting Sonos, they have let myself and others down for the almighty dollar, welcome to Trumps world.

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    Contributor II
    January 21, 2020

    If ever there was a time to short a stock … 

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    What about the Sub? It came out in 2012 so it seems like it’s right on the line. I am considering using my 30% off from my soon-to-be-bricked Connect:Amp to get a sub but I am concerned with its age.

     

    Sub doesn’t do much, it just receives and plays a signal.  So the memory requirements are paltry compared to a player which needs to store settings/index/playlists, access tracks, do voice control, etc.  

    You said something similar about the ZonePlayers if I remember rightly and how they wouldn’t be retired as they ran different software to CR100s which wasn’t as intensive. So excuse me if that comment is taken with a pinch of salt. 

    Number of new features delivered since the demise of the CR100 - pretty much zero of interest. I wonder what they won’t bring everyone after this cull. Not much more I suspect.

    @Ryan S comments about no plans to retire the zone players look a bit hard to swallow along with a £3000 bill.

    I have a Sub & Playbar from near release, and some early Play1s. Presumably I can spend £3k this year replacing Connects, and £3k next year replacing Play1s & Playbar/Sub. If technology has taught me anything it is that intervals half. So can expect the next lot of hardware to last half as long until is declared EOL. That doesn’t exactly make me want to commit £3k for hardware with a 5-year lifespan! 

    Suspect this is going to be bigger than the CR100 issue.

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    Owner since 2006: Legacy System(8.4):3*CR100:1*ZP80:4*ZP100:1*Play 5. - S1 System:1*ZP100:1*Z120. - S2 System:5*Amp:1*Port:2*Five:1*Arc,1*Move:1*Play Bar:1*Subwoofer:5*Play1 : Long live the CR100!
    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I've just read that after May, Sonos will no longer support my sound system (Playbar and two Play5) Gen 1.

    I spent a lot of money on this system and am appalled that I can be cut loose just like that

    I looked at Bose and B&O at the time but chose Sonos as the new company will be more efficient, supportive etc. 

    I clearly made a mistake as my system can die at any time after May 2020

     

    WHEN THAT HAPPENS I WILL GO BACK TO BOSE AND TELL ALL MY FRIENDS

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    Virtuoso
    January 21, 2020

    You’ll be able to split systems though and use your modern devices separate from your legacy devices both in the same household.

    @Ryan S Could you specify the details of this please? Will both parts of the system be controllable from a single controller? Will they share any settings (playlists, services, etc.)?

    This level of detail is essential to aid understanding of the impact of this change.

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