Sonos doesn’t really do “5.1”

Calling Sonos uncompromised HT is just BS in my opinion.

But that's not what Kumar said. He never said Sonos was uncompromised form a audio/music standpoint, not from an HT standpoint. In fact he stated he doesn't even use Sonos for HT.

Even from an music standpoint, I don't really know what 'uncompromised' means. I'm sure I'd be able to get a system that plays music better than Sonos does. However, I'm not sure I could find one that's in my price range, is a whole home system, integrates with HT sufficiently for my needs, has good app control, has voice control, and is likely to be expandable to more rooms and more features in the future. But sometimes that's not what you need and therefore Sonos isn't the best option for you.

If you've given it away why charge in here insulting people, 9 posts all having a pop at Sonos or community members who are trying to contribute in a positive manner.

I do hope you are happy with your B&W and Denon solution.

Even from an music standpoint, I don't really know what 'uncompromised' means. I'm sure I'd be able to get a system that plays music better than Sonos does.
I could argue with that on the basis that you are referring here to a sound signature preference as opposed to better v worse for playing music. But even granting what you suggest, your "better" music system with a Sonos Connect interface to it becomes an uncompromised Sonos system in that audibly, you will get all you seek from your preferred sound signature that would be down to the speakers you chose to employ. While someone else, that prefers the sound signature of a 5 pair + Sub and isn't carried away by the lack of an audiophile brand recognition for Sonos, would say that music from it sounds better than from a audiophile system of similar size.

But this is digressing from the topic of thread.

Wow, such vitriol. You know this is just a discussion yes? Over 30 interesting posts and you think the title is the important point? I did warn about pedants but if you want to play that game ok.

Please don’t get distracted by posts like this and continue with what is a really interesting conversation by some intelligent users (and me). Such a disappointment Big Daddy, you had kept the passive aggressive stuff down to a minimum up until now.

When you have nothing left, attack the messenger. Talk about passive aggressive. :8

On the topic: Sonos for HT IS a compromise, not so much because it does not do 5.1 - it does - but because the lack of separation of the front speakers is a compromise even where the codecs are not an issue. But to repeat, for those that see the benefits of the compromise in a system that is clutter free, and blends in with the living areas decor, this makes up for the lack of front speaker separation. Throw in integration with the rest of Sonos in the home, and you have the target market that sees the value in these pros for the aforesaid cons. Those that are not that market should look elsewhere because their needs are those that up to this time, Sonos has chosen to NOT address, as a conscious choice. In choosing A, one must forego B and this is what Sonos has done.
And to also repeat, this is not "News".

And a final post on this thread: the title words are as inappropriate as a thread with this title would be - "The Sonos Play 5 speaker does not really do stereo."

Wow, such vitriol. You know this is just a discussion yes? Over 30 interesting posts and you think the title is the important point? I did warn about pedants but if you want to play that game ok.

Please don’t get distracted by posts like this and continue with what is a really interesting conversation by some intelligent users (and me). Such a disappointment Big Daddy, you had kept the passive aggressive stuff down to a minimum up until now.

When you have nothing left, attack the messenger. Talk about passive aggressive. :8

Someone just gave me a row for calling people names. That must be you they are talking about Big Daddy! I think I was deferring to your massive number of posts which I miss-quoted by a good few thousand. If you have been emotionally affected by any of the content of my posts I am very sorry :8 Somehow I think you got the joke however.

And a final post on this thread: the title words are as inappropriate as a thread with this title would be - "The Sonos Play 5 speaker does not really do stereo."

Kumar my friend, A title has two main purposes: (1) grab the attention of potential readers and (2) serve as a point of reference. There are many arguments against the content of my posts, which was the whole point, but I think the level of responses and the passion of some of the replies would suggest if nothing else, I nailed the title.

So do the trash tabloids, every day, using trashy titles. For much the same reasons.

This thread has disappointingly started to detract from the original point. That's a great pity because there is some brilliant comments that will help potential buyers make a more informed decision before spending £1700. Why is that important? £1700 for a 5.1 system is a major investment for some people, a lot of people actually. In the real world people don't have the luxury of having separate Home Theatre Rooms, or can afford a SONOS Playbar/Base/Beam just for the kitchen or bedroom (you shouldn't have a TV in the bedroom anyway, my wife would have a fit :)) If you have all those things then that is terrific, hopefully you realise how lucky you are but you are not really representative of "normal" people. Don't take offence, I am not calling you weird, you are not like engineering students or anything.

SONOS fans, of which I am one (I am getting fed up typing that), please stop being so defensive. We get it, you love SONOS, who wouldn't? they are a phenomenal company making astonishingly good speakers for music. They do not however walk on water, get every product correct (how many software updates do we all go through?), they can defend themselves, they are a company with a market valuation which may be around $2.5 to $3 billion* not some plucky start-up and subsequently their bottom line is profit not listening to customers.

I am not in charge of this discussion but I did start it and I would either like to knock it on the head or start over.

- Please read my initial post;
- Please just comment on what I actually wrote;
- I am asking for opinions and debate, not a comment on SONOS as a company, other SONOS products or what you think of the title;
- I am not claiming to be correct, I have written and written and rewritten that the SONOS 5.1 system is good for some people, of course it is, I argue that it is not good as a 5.1 system. That does not mean any of the individual speakers are bad but I think when you put them all together they make a poor 5.1 system for the money.

Please keep personal references out of your posts unless they are obviously meant to be humorous.

* Source: https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/25/17282522/sonos-ipo-initial-public-offering-sec-filing-june-2018