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December 26, 2021

Add Chromecast built-in Integration

  • December 26, 2021
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I live in Italy and here Android users are much more that the Android users that are in the USA…

Personally all my family have an Android device, like Google Pixels, and all the house have integration with Google Assistant and Google Home. We are a Google Family.

We bought a Sonos Move for have a portable speaker with a gorgeous sound, and I can confirm that it have, but we hear the lack of the Google Chromecast built-in integration.

In fact the Chromecast built-in feature is a great opportunity for Sonos, we think, because in this way Sonos Speakers can appear in Media controls of Google Home and so can be controlled by all the people that live in the house. Also Chromecast built-in have plenty of integration with some services that made things really easy.

So, we decide that for now Sonos for us it can be only the Sonos Move or the Sonos Roam that have also the Bluetooth, because we need it for limiting the lack of the Chromecast built-in functionality. But we appreciate that in the future these awesome speakers, that are probably the best in their category, will have the Chromecast built-in feature, so we can buy product that also came without Bluetooth.

Best regards,

Giovanni Galboni

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96 replies

Lyricist III
April 3, 2022

Half measures and work arounds.

This topic isn't brought up a dozen times a year, because people are content to find ways to simulate (poorly) a utility they've come to expect, or more importantly may prefer.

The fact a Sonos user could have all the functionality they desire if, and only if, they stay within a Sonos approved ecosystem is exactly my point.

Sonos don't sell speakers.

At least not without strings..

 

Please don't assume to speak for me or any other "people" beside yourself.  I do not, nor have I ever expected and/or preferred Chromecast functionality, nor do I avoid the subject because I've found workarounds.

It doesn't appear you've read the entirety of my posts. If you have, you certainly missed the point.

Either way, this is a comically personal response. Suffice it to say, I am not as emotionally invested in audio companies as you.

I will, however, reiterate for your benefit: 

If you're comfortable in the Sonos ecosystem, they make great products.

Do not, however, make the mistake of thinking you are purchasing only a speaker. You are purchasing a piece of the Sonos ecosystem, and this ecosystem is where Sonos have chosen to focus their efforts as a company.

Sonos is competing more with Google Home than it is Bang & Olufsen.

No need to get bent out of shape about it. Let's just stop pretending like Bluetooth and Chromecast support is just around the corner and let people make an educated decision that makes sense for them.

On a personal note: I'm sure you'll have a blast asking the Sonos assistant to open Netflix in 2024. I sincerely hope it continues to work for you (as the main character).

 

jgatie
April 3, 2022

Why would a person who has decided Sonos is not for everybody be posting long drama laden missives on a Sonos site lamenting the fact that Sonos is not for everybody?

Lyricist III
April 3, 2022

Why would a person who has decided Sonos is not for everybody be posting long drama laden missives on a Sonos site lamenting the fact that Sonos is not for everybody?

Why would a person say X, when they have already decided X? Sounds consistent to me..

No drama though. I am not the OP. (Would you consider your dismissal of OP's issues to be speaking for him?) I'm simply weighing in on a post I have seen CONSTANTLY posted for years now.

I think the community's usual response is lacking, as I already explained (I understand it was too long for you).

We shouldn't be telling people they can do all the same things without Chromecast, or Bluetooth, or WISA, or Audio Pro, or Q-Symphony, or any other protocol. There are some things that cannot be done. Whether they matter to you or not is not the issue. They may matter to others, and they deserve the information to make that decision for themselves.

These features are also, as I have already made clear, not coming. So telling people to hold on or having representatives inform people they've forwarded their idea to the team in any hopeful capacity is absurd, as if they had never before thought of adding Chromecast. It's nothing more than a strategy to get people to invest in the Sonos ecosystem and keep them there.

Now I'm really going to blow your mind:

I'm not a big Chromecast guy.

But if it's important to you, if you want to control multi-room speakers from Google Home or a hub, don't buy Sonos. They aren't speakers to supplement your ecosystem. They're a competing ecosystem. A closed-wall garden around multi-room in an era increasingly aware of wireless functionality.

But if that's you, don't worry either. Google could buy Sonos a thousand times over if they ever feel the need. There will be plenty of very capable Chromecast speakers going forward.

As I said before, basically every active speaker at this point, outside of Sonos, will have Chromecast (usually alongside multiple other protocols).

Sonos has the first-mover advantage and a comprehensive line. They're trying their best to leverage this as long as they can.

If the Sonos ecosystem works for you, you won't be disappointed in the sound.

If not, like in the case of OP, look elsewhere..

106rallye
April 3, 2022

Not sure why you would absolutely need Chromecast when Spotify has Spotify Connect and other streaming services have comparable ways of streaming to Sonos. Even I, an Apple user, mostly stream music using the Sonos app.

Lyricist III
April 3, 2022

Not sure why you would absolutely need Chromecast when Spotify has Spotify Connect and other streaming services have comparable ways of streaming to Sonos. Even I, an Apple user, mostly stream music using the Sonos app.

I have two examples in my last post alone.

Some people need Chromecast for cohesion. Or maybe they simply prefer that UI. It's not for us to tell people what they want or to tell people what they want is not valid. It's toxic behavior.

I don't use Chromecast, but I completely understand when Google Home users buy something else. In fact, I encourage it.

There is no need for this forum to carry water for Sonos. As long as Sonos chooses not to target these users, their forum should follow their lead.

jgatie
April 3, 2022

Sonos is never going to support Chromecast, but here's another 500 words on why it should.  🙄

melvimbe
April 4, 2022

Sonos have removed every audio input possible without eliminating their use for television.

Not exactly. Line-In is available on Port, Amp, Five, and all their antecedents. The system can be used to distribute sources of any flavour, including a Chromecast Audio.

Plus of course any content can be streamed from an iDevice over AirPlay. 

Do you actually possess any Sonos gear?

I own a fair bit actually. Including more than one of the products you listed. 

These are older products, however, and I think it's fair to say their successors will not have any such feature.

 

 

Port, Amp and Five are not older products, they are the current lineup of Sonos products.  And there is absolutely zero reason to think that Sonos plans to no longer sell any products with aux input capability.  if that were the plan, they would stop producing the Port, since that’s practically it’s primary reason to exist.  It would also have been rather easy to remove the line in on the Five.  Then of course, it would make no sense to allow the Roam to bring in bluetooth input into the system. And stop selling turntables that use the aux input.  Beyond the products themselves though, the ability to play have an analog source, and share the audio with other speakers in the system,  is a strategic advantage for Sonos, since not every multiroom system can do that.

 

And that's fine. Having line-in present on only a portion of the product line does not allow for a full solution to use Sonos speakers within another ecosystem anyway. Half measures and work arounds.

 

 

The aux input was never designed as a way to integrate with other wireless audio systems.

 

Why would a person who has decided Sonos is not for everybody be posting long drama laden missives on a Sonos site lamenting the fact that Sonos is not for everybody?

Why would a person say X, when they have already decided X? Sounds consistent to me..

No drama though. I am not the OP. (Would you consider your dismissal of OP's issues to be speaking for him?) I'm simply weighing in on a post I have seen CONSTANTLY posted for years now.

I think the community's usual response is lacking, as I already explained (I understand it was too long for you).

We shouldn't be telling people they can do all the same things without Chromecast, or Bluetooth, or WISA, or Audio Pro, or Q-Symphony, or any other protocol. There are some things that cannot be done. Whether they matter to you or not is not the issue. They may matter to others, and they deserve the information to make that decision for themselves.

 

 

The reason people ask what features they want to use Chromecast, and anything else, for is because people often assume that Sonos can’t meet that feature some other way.   For example, a person may not understand that Sonos can stream audio directly, not through your phone or tablet like bluetooth, which is why bluetooth is only on the portable products.  OP stated that he wanted to be able to control his speakers through Google Home, which you can do with Sonos without having Chromecast.  The point isn’t to tell customers what should matter to them, but to provide information so they can make an informed decision.

 

These features are also, as I have already made clear, not coming. So telling people to hold on or having representatives inform people they've forwarded their idea to the team in any hopeful capacity is absurd, as if they had never before thought of adding Chromecast. It's nothing more than a strategy to get people to invest in the Sonos ecosystem and keep them there.

 

 

Except that the same sentiment was given for Sonos ever getting DTS, or bluetooth, both features that have actually happened.  That doesn’t mean that chromecast will definitely come to Sonos, but it means it’s not impossible.  There certainly isn’t anything wrong with Sonos staff saying that the request is noted.  If people want to falsely believe that acknowledging the request is the same thing as affirming that it will happen, that’s not Sonos fault. 

 

Now I'm really going to blow your mind:

I'm not a big Chromecast guy.

 

 

Not at all surprising actually.

 

But if it's important to you, if you want to control multi-room speakers from Google Home or a hub, don't buy Sonos.

 

This is not true.  You can control Sonos speakers through Google...or Amazon Alexa, or Airplay, and many other smart home hubs.  What you can’t do is have your Sonos speakers play in sync with other smart speakers.

 

They aren't speakers to supplement your ecosystem. They're a competing ecosystem. A closed-wall garden around multi-room in an era increasingly aware of wireless functionality.

But if that's you, don't worry either. Google could buy Sonos a thousand times over if they ever feel the need. There will be plenty of very capable Chromecast speakers going forward.

 

 

If Sonos wanted to sell, they would have done that already.  I don’t think Sonos will be looking to do that anytime soon, at least while they seem to be on an upward trend. 

 

As I said before, basically every active speaker at this point, outside of Sonos, will have Chromecast (usually alongside multiple other protocols).

 

 

Apple and Amazon speakers will not.  Since Amazon has a huge marketshare, it’s hard to conclude that basically every active speaker has chromecast.  But people don’t expect Echos or Homepods to have chromecast as they recognize them as competitors to Google, rather than subordinate companies paying licensing fees so they can play in Google playground.

 

Sonos has the first-mover advantage and a comprehensive line. They're trying their best to leverage this as long as they can.

If the Sonos ecosystem works for you, you won't be disappointed in the sound.

If not, like in the case of OP, look elsewhere..

 

This is basically true.  My only point to add is that if you like what Sonos seems to offer, than it’s worth while to consider all the features it offers, if you really need chromecast, bluetooth, etc since Sonos has other ways of providing these features.  It’s not about telling people what they should want, but giving them the information to make an informed decision.

 

 

 

Danny
Lyricist III
April 4, 2022

Sonos is never going to support Chromecast, but here's another 500 words on why it should.  🙄

I never argued that Sonos should support Chromecast actually. 

My first, and only, real point is why I very much doubt they ever intend to support Chromecast short of a buyout:

Again, for those lost in the weeds, low budget Chromecast speakers severely undercut Sonos. This allows customers that would otherwise be willing to invest in Sonos to get the multi-room solution they want without paying for a premium product. This, once upon a time, was Sonos' bread and butter. Nowadays, these relatively affordable options are a direct threat.

This is why you see Sonos play nice with some ecosystems and not others. They are attempting to leverage their first-mover advantage to prevent other companies from flooding the market with low-cost multi-room solutions.

Sonos competes well in the hifi market. They simply can't compete with low-budget loss leaders.

Google went all in on these low-cost, multi-room speakers. Sonos doesn't like that. 

No Chromecast. Focused legal resources against Google. Competing voice AI and media ecosystem incoming.

Cause and effect. 

The response following yours is very fair. But if you want to use Google Home/Chromecast, for whatever reason, don't buy Sonos.

Google picked the fight when they launched their Nest speakers. Sonos doubled-down with their lawsuit.

Until Google decides it will cost less long-term to own Sonos, this corporate squabble will continue.

Don't let any PR convince you otherwise.

Buy what works for you today. Understand it may not work for you tomorrow.

The smart home wars are still in their early years..

April 4, 2022

Sonos are defending the patents they secured when they INVENTED wireless multiroom audio. Not to do so would be commercial suicide.

Yes you can get cheaper multiroom systems now and that is a danger for Sonos. But I just don't happen to want an inferior system. Each to their own.

chicks
April 5, 2022

Sonos … INVENTED wireless multiroom audio.

 

Slim Devices / Logitech probably won’t agree.