The New Sonos App and Future Feature Updates

As I understand it Sonos can’t index over 65k. So how would they find the non-indexed items?

Latest release not working on iPad and iPhone. Please get your s*** together Sonos. 

Moderator Note: Modified in accordance with the Community Code of Conduct.

Here’s how the next release notes should read:

80.17.09 (Android)
80.14.08 (iOS)

Release date: ASAP

In this update:

We focused on the core of Sonos’ products and why you spent thousands of your hard-earned dollars: playing the same music, at the same time, on multiple speakers, consistently.

• The speakers you pick will all play music now
• Music plays at the same time from all the speakers you chose
• Music plays consistently until you stop it

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That’s really all it needs to say. Work on that. Then worry about ad-supported TV and wireless holographic headphones and ad-supported radio stations we don’t listen to anyway. Mick Jones had it right when he said, “Just Play Music!”

First time post, long time user, and increasingly long-time sufferer of this latest app incarnation.

I think some of the following issues are mentioned elsewhere, but I am still seeing these issues with the Android app:

• When I go to Sonos Favourites/Playlists/View All I can only see the first 70 playlists
• When I use the search to look for an album in my Music Library, it returns all of the songs on the album rather than the album itself, i.e. to play the album I would need to individually add every song to the queue rather than just the album
• When I go to my Music Library and select Folders, then locate an album to play, the three dots (...) option does not allow me to add the album or any of the individual songs to the current queue
• When I play any track and keep the app in playing view (so you can see the album art), switch to a different app on my phone for more than a few seconds and then switch back to the Sonos app, it is no longer in playing view, and briefly says cannot find system before showing the home screen rather than the playing view
• When I click on the volume bar and have multiple speakers in a group I can no longer select the volume for individual speakers in a group
• I can no longer edit or create playlists
• No longer have any widgets on Android

Really appalled by all of this. Not that it’s a factor, but having been singing Sonos praises to friends and family, all I seem to do now is apologise to my girlfriend for lumbering her with a music system that refuses to work!

What right does Sonos have to confront me with advertising for non-commercial streams that I had to enter into InTunes myself due to a lack of alternatives?

I feel I've been taken for a ride and sold by Sonos and expect to be able as quickly as possible to add my own streams in the controller, which I can simply listen to without adverts.

So Nick Millington, I updated my sonos app on 2 of my android phones and now neither of them can now connect to my system, only showing that I have a media device connected and not my 5no. amps. - even removed and downloaded the app. This undoubtedly will require me to 'yet again'  go through the process of setting up my system as a new system, which will require me to access my rack system to identify each amp and also reload the two other devices which I did not update and which are working fine - Nice work Nick have a Happy Christmas!

PS when will you also sort out the problems with Mixcloud where I am still unable to access any of my numerous playlists. This has been in issue reported by other Sonos sufferers on many occasions and yet seems to fall on deaf ears!

Greetings forum members:

We each are affected differently by the deficiencies in the new app. My main problem is the inability to use the new Tunein to access my carefully curated previous radio stations. Is there any alternative to new Tunein for playing radio stations where I have to input the unique URL manually? This used to be a seamless built in part of the original sonos program, and except for a money grab by Tunein, I can’t see any upside for sonos getting rid of Tunein. I am certainly not going to pay Tunein to listen to my free radio stations without commercials. Has anyone figured out a way to listen to stations not on sonos radio or Spotify or apple  besides Tunein? I appreciate any help. I have not bought a single new sonos product since the app was changed. I am an original sonos owner from day one, and would upgrade some speakers if the app were able to play my radio stations. Thanks for your time.

The simplest solution for Sonos would be to save/show the manually entered radio stations under favorites. Just like before!
There are obviously commercial interests in not doing exactly this and instead entering into a cooperation with InTunes, which is surely profitable for InTunes. Just an assumption of course, as technical reasons are not apparent. ;) It is therefore certainly difficult to openly discuss alternative ways of using your own URL streams with Sonos without advertising, as this contradicts Sonos' intentions and will certainly be immediately prevented by Sonos...
Or Sonos could finally talk openly about it and bring this function back. That would be a trust-building surprise.

If the Synology MS Audio app can do a Random100 playlist on this library, certainly Sonos can do it too.  They need to expand their indexing capabilities.

I am seeing this as well, i initially thought an algorithm was being applied to a local library .m3u shuffle but this makes more sense. My queue when this playlist is playing is over 55K. (https://en.community.sonos.com/general-feedback-and-conversation-229090/can-the-algorithm-be-disconnected-from-local-library-shuffle-6924288)