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Caroline V.
Retired Community Manager
Aug 1, 2022 3:36 PM UTC

14.12 Update

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Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 


 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

Moderation edit:

With the 14.18 software update, the above mentioned issues have been addressed, and the Enhanced Clarity for Arc adjustments are retained. There was a clear preference within our community for the previous volume settings, and these have been restored. This will be apparent immediately after updating to 14.18. The Trueplay issue has been fixed. Customers who experienced a lower Sub level after performing Trueplay after updating to 14.12 will need to update their systems and then perform a new Trueplay tuning in order to address these improvements in their system. Customers will hear a more powerful low end response, meaning any Sub level adjustments made after 14.12 should no longer be required.

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Dogdad
Headliner III
Aug 16, 2022 1:01 AM UTC

Any updates on what Sonos is fixing and by when? Are they going to fix the arc’s sound as well as the neutered bass? We are disappointed with our new sound night-after-night. 

Patience grasshopper,,,they are working on it.

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Enthusiast II
Aug 16, 2022 7:29 AM UTC

Any updates on what Sonos is fixing and by when? Are they going to fix the arc’s sound as well as the neutered bass? We are disappointed with our new sound night-after-night. 

Patience grasshopper,,,they are working on it.

Can you or Sonos confirm this?

 

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Dogdad
Headliner III
Aug 16, 2022 1:19 PM UTC

Any updates on what Sonos is fixing and by when? Are they going to fix the arc’s sound as well as the neutered bass? We are disappointed with our new sound night-after-night. 

Patience grasshopper,,,they are working on it.

Can you or Sonos confirm this?

 

If you read the first post ( post from SONOS ) , it states they have found an issue. 

 

Moderator Note: Modified in accordance with the Community Code of Conduct.

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Enthusiast I
Aug 16, 2022 1:36 PM UTC

Any updates on what Sonos is fixing and by when? Are they going to fix the arc’s sound as well as the neutered bass? We are disappointed with our new sound night-after-night. 

Patience grasshopper,,,they are working on it.

Can you or Sonos confirm this?

 

If you read the first post ( post from SONOS ) , it states they have found an issue. If you think they aren’t going to resolve it…. you’re ignorant. 

Calling someone ignorant is needlessly antagonistic.  We're asking for information or a timeline on when they're going to fix something that they have admitted to breaking.  Calls for patience are also unnecessary - it's been nearly a month.

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Headliner I
Aug 16, 2022 3:08 PM UTC

Guarantee a new issue will be found when this one gets resolved in the next update.

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Trending Lyricist I
Aug 16, 2022 5:59 PM UTC

Been trying to convince myself for weeks it still sounds decent with Trueplay off and sub at +15. But its still not the same.

 

This update is big trash. Please fix it!

You certainly shouldn’t have to convince yourself it sounds good with TruePlay off.  I did get a sub impact, and now my sub is at +10 -- but based on user experiences it seems like my impact isn’t as great, so I’m still using TruePlay and the channel separation is freaking on-point. The sound profile (with exception to sub impact) is absolutely remarkable.

But again, don’t sit there and try to convince yourself. I’m truly sitting on some media I am saving for after the next update (fix) - to see how I truly feel.  It is unfortunate it is taking so so long for them to fix this though :/

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Trending Lyricist I
Aug 17, 2022 3:47 AM UTC

I just got my Arc last Saturday (already have Beam Gen 1 and Beam Gen 2).  Since I just got my Arc, I’ve ONLY heard the 14.12 update.  Can someone fill me in, in the most simplistic of terms, what it would have sounded like before?  I am quite pleased with how it sounds now, especially since I can hear subtle texture and nuance in certain sounds.  I’m also quite happy with how music sounds.  Did it make BOTH movies and music sound worse or just one or the other?  

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Aug 17, 2022 4:18 AM UTC

People like you are why Sonos isn’t implementing the most common demand on this thread - just rolling back the latest update. What this latest update sought to do was address the problem of the movie dialogues getting drowned out by the rest of the soundtrack; so that is one thing you should be looking to see if you are ok with. If yes, don’t worry about this thread till Sonos rolls out another update to address other issues that the latest update seems to have caused users, and keep your fingers crossed that your happy state of affairs isn't then disturbed!

PS: most of those having issues seem to be ones that use a Sub along with Arc.

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Enthusiast I
Aug 17, 2022 7:03 AM UTC

I just got my Arc last Saturday (already have Beam Gen 1 and Beam Gen 2).  Since I just got my Arc, I’ve ONLY heard the 14.12 update.  Can someone fill me in, in the most simplistic of terms, what it would have sounded like before?  I am quite pleased with how it sounds now, especially since I can hear subtle texture and nuance in certain sounds.  I’m also quite happy with how music sounds.  Did it make BOTH movies and music sound worse or just one or the other?  

The big issue is with Arc + Sub setups.  If you don’t rock that combo it’s not something you need to worry about it.

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Enthusiast II
Aug 17, 2022 1:06 PM UTC

People seem to be getting so het up with the Arc and Sub combo, yes it sounds bad as a pair and this is what Sonos has said they will try and fix but when my Arc is unbonded from my Sub Gen3 it still sounds rubbish. When everything is bonded together in a HT setup my 1SL's are too loud so I need to turn them down. It's as if they're still on the 14.10 volume and sound curve (even though all my products are at 14.12). I run everything as default, no EQ enhancements, no level adjustments. Therefore it's evident this 14.12 wasn't very well thought through in my opinion. The main focus of the fix being Arc and Sub bonding is just a drop in the ocean compared to what needs to be done overall.

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