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Caroline V.
Retired Community Manager
Aug 1, 2022 3:36 PM UTC

14.12 Update

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Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 


 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

Moderation edit:

With the 14.18 software update, the above mentioned issues have been addressed, and the Enhanced Clarity for Arc adjustments are retained. There was a clear preference within our community for the previous volume settings, and these have been restored. This will be apparent immediately after updating to 14.18. The Trueplay issue has been fixed. Customers who experienced a lower Sub level after performing Trueplay after updating to 14.12 will need to update their systems and then perform a new Trueplay tuning in order to address these improvements in their system. Customers will hear a more powerful low end response, meaning any Sub level adjustments made after 14.12 should no longer be required.

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Enthusiast II
Aug 8, 2022 7:14 PM UTC

Such a downgrade, please reverse this upgrade Sonos!

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Lyricist III
Aug 8, 2022 7:56 PM UTC

@rp105 If you are not using Trueplay to tune your system, you will need to go into settings and adjust the settings for both distance and volume level of your surrounds.  Trueplay does that for you based upon sound measurements from your listening position.  If you manually adjust those settings from your preferred listening spot, it should sort out your mismatched volume setting.

@wds0001 : Thanks for replying, I tuned my system with Trueplay again and the volume is much better compared to how it was, thanks for the advice, I could use my setup now to watch movies now. I will live with the low SUB output until SONOS fix it with an upcoming update.

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Enthusiast II
Aug 8, 2022 9:52 PM UTC

3 weeks since this terrible update and I can’t get used to it. I don’t even want to watch tv/movies anymore, and music couldn’t sound worse. This is giving me such bad anxiety. I can’t enjoy my sound systems anymore. I have to listen to music through my Echo Show now. No faith in the upcoming update at all, as it seems they are only going to fix the Trueplay and sub issues. Dialogue sounds worse imo. More hollow than before. What about the low volume??? I can’t turn my system up any higher then I already am. I don’t understand why you would make such drastic changes especially after the 14.10 update which was great and had my speakers finally sounding awesome. I know some of you are happy with it, and that’s great, but it seems like the majority of people are very unhappy. I hope ALL issues are addressed. 

Totally agree @popeofhell and concur 100%. Same anxiety here, can't return it, can't easily sell it, can't enjoy it any more, I just sit feeling trapped waiting for an update which I know will not solve everything and will not be to my satisfaction. For reference to the other readers, I use my system completely stock and default. No EQ enhancements, no increased levels and no true play because I deemed everything out of the box was perfectly fine as it was and was the sole reason for spending my hard earned cash on the award winning awesomeness it once was. Absolutely nothing wrong with how it all sounded before, anything to do with dialogue enhancement should have been put into the existing feature toggle and left everything else the same. Music is now shocking, I'm sure that's not the way artists want their music heard. Just needs rolling back, admitting fault and restoring the faith in their owners. Simple to do and would earn a lot of respect from the community.

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Aug 9, 2022 1:46 AM UTC

Totally agree @popeofhell and concur 100%. Same anxiety here, can't return it, can't easily sell it, can't enjoy it any more, I just sit feeling trapped waiting for an update which I know will not solve everything and will not be to my satisfaction.

 Just needs rolling back, admitting fault and restoring the faith in their owners. Simple to do and would earn a lot of respect from the community.

First, it seems that during what has been overnight for me, Sonos moderation has been at work doing a lot more and well targeted clean ups compared to just their link removal from my post earlier. Completely unprompted by me, but welcome nonetheless.

Moving back to topic on the quoted, starting with the last bit - if the solution was that simple, Sonos would have done it. It isn’t, probably because this will cause a lot of protest in another set of users, not for any technical reason; technically anything Sonos changes they should be able to unchange because the hardware has not been damaged.

To the rest of the quoted - if waiting is your only option, it may feel long, but I would not discount Sonos in a hurry for its ability to fix the problem to your satisfaction. If memory serves me well, another Sonos TV product had issues with its sound, that was ultimately fixed to pretty much universal satisfaction as I remember.

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Lyricist III
Aug 9, 2022 9:24 AM UTC

Hello, me for example, i have a big issue with this update. Ok the volume could be up, but it is only for the TV or Movies. When I ask Alexa or play music, the New volume Level who is low for TV is very high when Alexa answer or play music with spotify Connect.

 

it is a very high problem for my family because my wife and my childrens are not happy and affraid

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Zeek78
Enthusiast II
Aug 9, 2022 9:39 AM UTC

So, how long until there comes an update with a fix? It´s already been 3-4 weeks, and still nothing...

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Dogdad
Headliner III
Aug 9, 2022 11:14 AM UTC

So, how long until there comes an update with a fix? It´s already been 3-4 weeks, and still nothing...

Patience grasshopper….patience 

nothing we can do to rush them.

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Enthusiast II
Aug 9, 2022 11:59 AM UTC

ARC + SUB + 2 Ones as surround.
Same problem as almost everyone else.

Low volume on Arc, terrible Bass from the Sub!


Please fix this! NOT HAPPY AT ALL!

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Enthusiast II
Aug 9, 2022 5:53 PM UTC

ARC + SUB + 2 Ones as surround.
Same problem as almost everyone else.

Low volume on Arc, terrible Bass from the Sub!


Please fix this! NOT HAPPY AT ALL!

But it’s an improvement! How dare you?

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Lyricist III
Aug 9, 2022 6:11 PM UTC

ARC + SUB + 2 Ones as surround.
Same problem as almost everyone else.

Low volume on Arc, terrible Bass from the Sub!


Please fix this! NOT HAPPY AT ALL!

I have a similar setup, volume from ARC was better after I ran Trueplay, however SUB output is very low. I got my setup post the 14.12 update so I am not sure how the ARC sounded before the update. I suggest you also tune with Trueplay once and later disable it.

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