No more SONOS for me

I was to say Godfather 2 as well, but I thought I get attacked enough for digressions.

And Star Wars is just Dune and a whole bunch of Western flicks; Rogue One and the Mandalorian are the only two I rate.

I don’t agree that a 5.1 beats a 2.0 hands down, if the dialogue channel is well mixed and the 2 speakers are bass capable as mine are. Surrounds are overrated in my experience, and don’t deliver the value for the wiring hassle and clutter.

but a 5.1 setup with a well mixed dialogue centre channel AND those rear speakers adds much more immersion - especially for the likes of Maverick etc.  Some of the jets literally come from behind you before you even see them.

That may well be the case; I threw away my surrounds in 2005, and the mixing for surrounds at home may have improved since then. I will go to the cinema near by and look for jets coming from behind me before I see them on the screen, to see if that effect is credible, but even if it does, and even though my 50 inch is in a dedicated for TV room, I do not see myself running wires for surround. Most of my TV watching does not include things coming from behind me and it is just not worth the bother. Not with a mutilplex 15 minutes away for the rare occasion, and with Covid now turned into just the flu.

Back somewhat on topic; with front speakers in stereo sound locations in 2.0 mode, the sound panning for jets screaming across the screen is very well rendered - you hear them before you see them just fine. And hear them after they have disappeared from the screen on the other side.

Does Arc deliver that rendering well?

Watched top gun two days ago , I actually wasn't impressed with my setup to be honest. I got beam 2 + 2 sl's and sub 3. Because of the software bug i set sub on +13 , EQ bass +5 treble +7 , true play on. I set height channel +10 and I couldn't really hear sound above my head , rear channel set on +7 and rear was decent but for me to much background music instead of the sfx in this movie. Bass obviously is lacking on 14.14 so won't even comment on that. I expected more sfx and more directional sound from the whole system.

Come on Sonos fix the damn software.…

Previously watched bad guys on 14.10 and was blown away with the sound and bass.

Have an amp, sub, symfonisk lamp surrounds, Kef R3 - watched Maverick and it sounded freaking phenomenal. Had night mode on still sounded great, think I need to check my ears 😀

@Bumper Why am I not surprised?

Do this experiment that is easy to do. Turn off the power to the surrounds and see if anything significant is lost from the same movie experience.

The outcome will tell you what to do with them - retain or redeploy to elsewhere in the home.

Have already done that experiment but I like them as lamps though so they stay put 😀

Probably could move the sub as well but it has a plant on it so it stays 😂

It keeps the soil aerated.

A well mastered 5.1 on Netflix etc does make a difference, I'd say for normal TV our surrounds are dead weigh.

We use our Playbar 5.1 setup for music a lot as well though and it really is a nice place to be with surrounds on "full music" mode. 

It will probably be HT-A9's for us for Atmos but I'm a tight Yorkshire man and just can't pull the trigger, probably will when the nights draw in.. Just irks me having to buy another Sub..