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Introducing Sonos Move, Brilliant Sound Anywhere

Introducing Sonos Move, Brilliant Sound Anywhere

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Our Sonos System runs via a sonos Bridge not WiFi - Will these speakers still work OK

We have WiFi outside
Move will connect to your house Wifi, not the Bridge's, but it'll sync with your system while on the network without issues. Also, you may want to try out your whole system on the house wireless, the Bridge is getting pretty old and modern routers will have better wireless performance. You may not notice any issues, but it certainly might be worth testing things out.


So the Move doesn't use the Sonos mesh? I was going to buy one for the garden but WiFi is poor
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So the Move doesn't use the Sonos mesh? I was going to buy one for the garden but WiFi is poor


That's correct. But Bluetooth would work great wherever you can't extend your WiFi to.
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Ryan, just some clarification then - Move doesn't use Sonosnet at all? For an existing setup running on Sonosnet, it has to connect to WiFi - but is then available for grouping etc.?
It needs to be in range of router/AP etc., not another Sonos device?
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Ryan, just some clarification then - Move doesn't use Sonosnet at all? For an existing setup running on Sonosnet, it has to connect to WiFi - but is then available for grouping etc.?
It needs to be in range of router/AP etc., not another Sonos device?

That's correct. Move is designed to be used in either a mixed Wifi and SonosNet mode, or on just Wifi. Functionality wise, it'll do everything you expect, just not on the SonosNet mesh.
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So the Move doesn't use the Sonos mesh? I was going to buy one for the garden but WiFi is poorThat's correct. But Bluetooth would work great wherever you can't extend your WiFi to.


Not really. If we have a party the Play5 will be on in the kitchen and a Sonos One in the garden/patio, grouped. I was hoping the Move would replace the One but if it's WiFi only then it's a no go. You need to make that clear in your marketing as I'm sure many will be thinking the same as me.
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Ryan, just some clarification then - Move doesn't use Sonosnet at all? For an existing setup running on Sonosnet, it has to connect to WiFi - but is then available for grouping etc.?
It needs to be in range of router/AP etc., not another Sonos device?





So the Move doesn't use the Sonos mesh? I was going to buy one for the garden but WiFi is poorThat's correct. But Bluetooth would work great wherever you can't extend your WiFi to.
Not really. If we have a party the Play5 will be on in the kitchen and a Sonos One in the garden/patio, grouped. I was hoping the Move would replace the One but if it's WiFi only then it's a no go. You need to make that clear in your marketing as I'm sure many will be thinking the same as me.


Thanks to you both for pointing this out as I didn't even notice or grasp what this actually means 😥
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I do wonder then how many users appreciate the Move can't use or connect to the tech that has always been the cornerstone, advantage and patented tech that Sonos is {or was??) based on.
Probably no coincidence then that Sonos has really been pushing users towards a WiFi setup lately and to 'try it'....?
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Ryan, just some clarification then - Move doesn't use Sonosnet at all? For an existing setup running on Sonosnet, it has to connect to WiFi - but is then available for grouping etc.?
It needs to be in range of router/AP etc., not another Sonos device?
That's correct. Move is designed to be used in either a mixed Wifi and SonosNet mode, or on just Wifi. Functionality wise, it'll do everything you expect, just not on the SonosNet mesh.


I really don't get why you have not used SonosNet, can this be changed in future in software if there is a demand for it?
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Ryan, just some clarification then - Move doesn't use Sonosnet at all? For an existing setup running on Sonosnet, it has to connect to WiFi - but is then available for grouping etc.?
It needs to be in range of router/AP etc., not another Sonos device?
That's correct. Move is designed to be used in either a mixed Wifi and SonosNet mode, or on just Wifi. Functionality wise, it'll do everything you expect, just not on the SonosNet mesh.
I really don't get why you have not used SonosNet, can this be changed in future in software if there is a demand for it?

That really is disappointing. I was going to primarily use it in the garden (which is just out of WiFi range) using sonosnet from my kitchen speaker. That would make it seamless in terms of grouping all my speakers together.

I know you've confirmed it Ryan but do you not think that it's an odd decision?

Cheers
I was really excited for this but the pricing seems out of whack.
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On the absense of sonosnet, it might be because the Move is designed to work with multiple wifi networks. It was discussed in another thread...the Move will store up to 16 SSIDs and passwords. Perhaps it cannot easily switch between wifi and sonosnet seemlessly as the device is moved around.

Not trying to minimize the case where wifi isn't available, just maybe helping answer the question of why?
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On the absense of sonosnet, it might be because the Move is designed to work with multiple wifi networks. It was discussed in another thread...the Move will store up to 16 SSIDs and passwords. Perhaps it cannot easily switch between wifi and sonosnet seemlessly as the device is moved around.

Not trying to minimize the case where wifi isn't available, just maybe helping answer the question of why?


Thanks for the info. Am I being stupid but why would it need to store 16 SSIDs? Do Sonos assume I might have 15 friends that use Sonos and require me to bring my speaker over to their house 🙂
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16 should cover anyone. I can see myself using about 5 or 6 of those. Some public places have wifi available too. Again, iam speculating on reasoning for no sonosnet here.
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This decision was made based on several factors. Largely, SonosNet was designed for players in a fixed configuration, always on, and continuously connected to a home network. It wasn't designed to handle players moving around the house. Introducing our first portable speaker meant adding new features and hardware for a flexible listening experience, including Bluetooth mode and suspend mode. In order to ensure a smooth experience for customers with these additional features, Move directly connects to the access point or WiFi network.

Among many concerns, there are basic networking issues, such as if it were part of SonosNet, other players connecting to it may suddenly lose their streams if it dropped offline due to going into suspend mode.

If you're looking to use a Move out where you don't have wifi, and don't want to use Bluetooth, you could also use a wireless extender, wired into the nearest Sonos player if you wanted, and have that extend your wireless range.
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I don't think this product will do well. Who is the audience? Diehard sonos fans? Your average Best Buy consumer won't buy it. Meanwhile no new Playbar...no modern audio codecs for home theater.
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OK...maybe I missed it amongst the raves and rants 😙. But no one seems to have addressed the elephant in forum regarding the Big Q.....Will it pair with a computer via BT?
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That is a very good question. You would think so.
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OK...maybe I missed it amongst the raves and rants 😙. But no one seems to have addressed the elephant in forum regarding the Big Q.....Will it pair with a computer via BT?
For Bluetooth purposes, it'll function as a Bluetooth 4.2 speaker, so if your computer can connect with one, it should work great.
That doesn't, however, connect the computer to the rest of the Sonos speaker system. It's in bluetooth mode, which means it's a single speaker.
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That doesn't, however, connect the computer to the rest of the Sonos speaker system. It's in bluetooth mode, which means it's a single speaker.

I didn't expect it would join other Sonos when in BT speaker mode and if I understand correctly it doesn't connect to other Sonos even in wifi mode. I was just speculating it would be another Sonos selling point for those who have been asking for a speaker that can be used wirelessly with a computer.

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Have I misinterpreted anything?
It wasn't you that the post was "pointed" at. It was the larger population that reads these forums 🙂
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It wasn't you that the post was "pointed" at. It was the larger population that reads these forums :)
Sorry, my response was not intended to convey that I was in anyway offended. I was really agreeing. I just worded it incorrectly. 😉
I don't think this product will do well. Who is the audience? Diehard sonos fans? Your average Best Buy consumer won't buy it.

You can be absolutely certain Sonos knows exactly who will buy it, and has sales projections nailed down for the next 2-3 years, at a minimum. This isn't their first rodeo.
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If you're looking to use a Move out where you don't have wifi, and don't want to use Bluetooth, you could also use a wireless extender, wired into the nearest Sonos player if you wanted, and have that extend your wireless range.


Thanks Ryan. If that's fairly easy (and relatively cheap) to do, then that will be a good solution. More research!

Cheers
I was ecstatic when I received the email announcing the 3 new Sonos products this morning. I've been hoping for this portable speaker ever since I purchased my first Sonos speaker. Love the wifi + bluetooth. Very clever. Pre-ordered!

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