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serravalc
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February 24, 2020
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SONOS AMP

hi I'm interested in buying amp but I would like to ask you 2 questions should i attach the projector to the hdmi (amp) port is it possible? I only have 2 passive speakers, can I create a 5.1 by adding the sub and play 5 sonos?

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    AjTrek1
    AjTrek1Answer
    February 24, 2020

    Hi

    @Ken_Griffiths gave some excellent advice. However, it’s been my experience that very few (if any) projectors have HDMI-ARC (CEC) port(s). Even the Epson 5050UB 4K Pro-UHD projector that retails for over $2,500-USD lacks an HDMI-Arc port (click the link).

    https://epson.com/For-Home/Projectors/Home-Cinema/Home-Cinema-5050UB-4K-PRO-UHD-Projector-with-Advanced-3-Chip-Design-and-HDR10/p/V11H930020#

    Below is my recommendation to integrate a Sonos Amp with a projector of any type using a HDMI/Optical Extractor similar to the one in the link at the bottom of this post:

    1. Video/Audio source HDMI-Out to HDMI-In port of the HDMI/Optical Extractor
    2. HDMI-Out from HDMI/Optical Extractor to HDMI-In of Projector
    3. Optical Out from HDMI/Optical Extractor to HDMI-In of Sonos Amp *
    4. Sonos One SL x 2 as surrounds bonded to Sonos Amp (or other Sonos speakers mentioned by @Ken_Griffiths)
    5. Sonos Sub bonded to Sonos Amp
    6. Two extra HDMI-In ports are available for other devices on the HDMI/Optical Extractor  

    * Requires HDMI/Optical adapter shown here

    https://www.amazon.com/Optical-Toslink-Extractor-Splitter-Support/dp/B07K5FYW5M/ref=sr_1_12_sspa?crid=2C4LW8GSV095N&keywords=hdmi+optical+audio+extractor&qid=1582120850&sprefix=hdmi+optical%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-12-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExM1FFUU9ORDFFUUJSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODg1NzI4OUY3QzQyTlU2S1IwJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3ODI5MDYxN1dVSzc5VFQ3TEtIJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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    Ken_Griffiths
    Ken_Griffiths
    February 24, 2020

    The AMP connects to an HDMI-ARC port, which is different to a straightforward HDMI port. So perhaps check that your device has the audio return channel. You can purchase an “HDMI-ARC to Optical Adapter” from Sonos.com, if you prefer to go down that route instead.

    The Amp, when setup as the front HT device will provide the two HT front channels and a phantom Center channel and it can be bonded with a Sonos sub (or 3rd party active sub) and two Sonos 'matching’ speakers as it’s two rear channels for a 5.1 HT system. 

    The rear speakers can be …

    • 2 x Play:5 (gen 2) 
    • 2 x Play:1 or 3
    • 2 x Sonos One (gen 1 or/and 2, or/and SL)*

    *Note: The Sonos Ones’s and SL speaker’s can also be 'mixed and matched'.

    It is also possible to use another Amp (wireless or wired) or the older Connect:Amp (wired only) for the two rear surrounds but note that all the ports (except speaker connections) on the Amp/C:A become disabled in these circumstances, including the line-in/out and sub.

      AjTrek1
      AjTrek1Answer
      February 24, 2020

      Hi

      @Ken_Griffiths gave some excellent advice. However, it’s been my experience that very few (if any) projectors have HDMI-ARC (CEC) port(s). Even the Epson 5050UB 4K Pro-UHD projector that retails for over $2,500-USD lacks an HDMI-Arc port (click the link).

      https://epson.com/For-Home/Projectors/Home-Cinema/Home-Cinema-5050UB-4K-PRO-UHD-Projector-with-Advanced-3-Chip-Design-and-HDR10/p/V11H930020#

      Below is my recommendation to integrate a Sonos Amp with a projector of any type using a HDMI/Optical Extractor similar to the one in the link at the bottom of this post:

      1. Video/Audio source HDMI-Out to HDMI-In port of the HDMI/Optical Extractor
      2. HDMI-Out from HDMI/Optical Extractor to HDMI-In of Projector
      3. Optical Out from HDMI/Optical Extractor to HDMI-In of Sonos Amp *
      4. Sonos One SL x 2 as surrounds bonded to Sonos Amp (or other Sonos speakers mentioned by @Ken_Griffiths)
      5. Sonos Sub bonded to Sonos Amp
      6. Two extra HDMI-In ports are available for other devices on the HDMI/Optical Extractor  

      * Requires HDMI/Optical adapter shown here

      https://www.amazon.com/Optical-Toslink-Extractor-Splitter-Support/dp/B07K5FYW5M/ref=sr_1_12_sspa?crid=2C4LW8GSV095N&keywords=hdmi+optical+audio+extractor&qid=1582120850&sprefix=hdmi+optical%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-12-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExM1FFUU9ORDFFUUJSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODg1NzI4OUY3QzQyTlU2S1IwJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3ODI5MDYxN1dVSzc5VFQ3TEtIJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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        Airgetlam
        Airgetlam
        February 24, 2020

        One minor correction, Ken. It’s an optical to HDMI-ARC adapter, not an HDMI-ARC to optical adapter. 

        Bruce
          serravalcAuthor
          Avid Contributor I
          February 24, 2020

          Hi

          @Ken_Griffiths gave some excellent advice. However, it’s been my experience that very few (if any) projectors have HDMI-ARC (CEC) port(s). Even the Epson 5050UB 4K Pro-UHD projector that retails for over $2,500-USD lacks an HDMI-Arc port (click the link).

          https://epson.com/For-Home/Projectors/Home-Cinema/Home-Cinema-5050UB-4K-PRO-UHD-Projector-with-Advanced-3-Chip-Design-and-HDR10/p/V11H930020#

          Below is my recommendation to integrate a Sonos Amp with a projector of any type using a HDMI/Optical Extractor similar to the one in the link at the bottom of this post:

          1. Video/Audio source HDMI-Out to HDMI-In port of the HDMI/Optical Extractor
          2. HDMI-Out from HDMI/Optical Extractor to HDMI-In of Projector
          3. Optical Out from HDMI/Optical Extractor to HDMI-In of Sonos Amp *
          4. Sonos One SL x 2 as surrounds bonded to Sonos Amp (or other Sonos speakers mentioned by @Ken_Griffiths)
          5. Sonos Sub bonded to Sonos Amp
          6. Two extra HDMI-In ports are available for other devices on the HDMI/Optical Extractor  

          * Requires HDMI/Optical adapter shown here

          https://www.amazon.com/Optical-Toslink-Extractor-Splitter-Support/dp/B07K5FYW5M/ref=sr_1_12_sspa?crid=2C4LW8GSV095N&keywords=hdmi+optical+audio+extractor&qid=1582120850&sprefix=hdmi+optical%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-12-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExM1FFUU9ORDFFUUJSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODg1NzI4OUY3QzQyTlU2S1IwJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3ODI5MDYxN1dVSzc5VFQ3TEtIJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

          i have a benq 585 connecting it with line in or hdmi i have delay problems ??

           

          Ken_Griffiths
          Ken_Griffiths
          February 24, 2020

          serravalc,

          Yes, there will 'most likely' be a noticeable lip-sync delay if choosing to use a line-in connection, plus that will only provide you with a stereo audio signal, rather than surround sound.

          However using the HDMI extractor/splitter, as suggested, should reduce delay to around 30ms approx. and that will likely appear to provide you with A/V lip-sync that’s not noticeable… but these things can depend on a variety of external factors. The HDMI/splitter/extractor route will also provides you with a Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround audio signal too from the A/V source, or stereo output. 

            serravalcAuthor
            Avid Contributor I
            February 25, 2020

            serravalc,

            Yes, there will 'most likely' be a noticeable lip-sync delay if choosing to use a line-in connection, plus that will only provide you with a stereo audio signal, rather than surround sound.

            However using the HDMI extractor/splitter, as suggested, should reduce delay to around 30ms approx. and that will likely appear to provide you with A/V lip-sync that’s not noticeable… but these things can depend on a variety of external factors. The HDMI/splitter/extractor route will also provides you with a Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround audio signal too from the A/V source, or stereo output. 

             

            serravalcAuthor
            Avid Contributor I
            February 25, 2020

            Ok?

             

            serravalcAuthor
            Avid Contributor I
            February 25, 2020

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            Ken_Griffiths
            Ken_Griffiths
            February 25, 2020

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            Does that extractor/splitter you linked to here, have an HDMI-ARC port?? I’m not sure it does? ...

            This one does however, that I just found on Amazon UK, but I have not tested this (obviously) nor know how it might perform. So it’s just for your information only .…

            .https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Extractor-Splitter-Optical-TOSLINK/dp/B07HR6YK2X/ref=sr_1_20

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