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Contributor I
October 22, 2018

Beam, playbar or Play3/5?

Hi guys, I'm Italian (sorry for my basic English) and finally after years of savings we've bought an house :)
It's under constructions, we're moving on May '19 and I'm planning to buy a Sonos device(s) for the combo kitchen and living room, the area will be 39 square meters.

Our needs is to fill the room not only on the front of the sofa, but also in the kitchen area, I've attach the room layout.
Our use it's about 20% watch movies in stereo (may be Netflix in the future) and 80% listen to music by TV/smartphone through Spotify (free) or Synology NAS App. We've an Apple TV 3rd gen. and only Apple phones.
The TV will be replaced before moving with a brand new OLED LG with HDMI-ARC.

I've read others posts, but I'm still confused if the best for our needs will be beam, playbar or, ironically 2xplay3 for the sofa and 1xplay1 on the top of the Kitchen.
Alexa isn't available now in Italy, it's in beta, but I'm not "exciting" about that.

Very thanks for any helps!

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17 replies

Ken_Griffiths
October 22, 2018
cipo80,

Firstly, a huge congratulations on purchasing your brand new home and all the very best of luck in the future with that.

Assuming you have no in-built ceiling speakers etc. or other existing legacy audio devices, my personal suggestion would be...

1. A Sonos Beam for the new LG TV.
2. Two older Play:1’s as 'bonded rear surrounds' for a 5.0 Dolby Digital surround sound with the Beam/TV. You could also later add the Sonos sub to that setup, if you think you would prefer the extra Bass. I think the setup will be fine without it, but try it and see.
3. I would also buy two additional Sonos One speakers for use in mono 'standalone mode' in the Kitchen and Dining Table areas.

All speakers mentioned will be capable of being 'grouped' together, if you then want to fill the whole room with your music. Use the surrounds in 'FULL Mode' for your music audio.

You can always buy additional Sonos one Speakers too, for the bedroom, if you decide you also want music in that room.

I appreciate you are not yet a fan of Alexa/Google voice control, but I suspect once you try those things and get used to using them, that you will find the voice control useful. I’m reasonably sure such control will be available in Italy by the time you move in.

So those are the devices I think I would buy for that sort of setup and size of room.

Hope that helps ?
Chris
Lead Maestro
October 22, 2018
I would get a Beam for TV, a Sonos Sub near it. Then a Pair of Sonos Ones (or Play:1s as Ken mentioned if want to save a couple dollars) and mount them at both rear corners (kitchen and front door).


Be sure to set the surrounds to FULL mode so you get full stereo sound from all speakers when listening to music.
Respect the Queue (2)Move (3)Beam (1) Era100 (2)ARC (1)SonosOne (1)Playbar (4)Play5 (4)Play1 (3)Play3 (1)Port (2)Connect (1) Roam (2) Ace (1)Connect:Amp (4)Sonos Amp (1)Sub + (9) Echo + Smartthings; (2)Play)
Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
October 22, 2018
As the Play 3 has been discontinued the Play 1s are the most reasonable given your space and the Beam should work well too.

As you will have the pair of Play 1s for your Beam surrounds you might want to experiment with them in the kitchen and dining areas. Remove them from the Beam and try them as single speakers as well as a pair in different locations and decide what sounds best.

If playing music in the kitchen or dining room alone you might find you prefer a stereo pair to a mono single there, some folks get tired of mono sound fairly quickly while others have no problems with it.

Once you have connected your surrounds back to the Beam you can always group the kitchen/dining ones with the Beam (set to full as said above) for very room filling music.
AjTrek1
October 22, 2018
Just something to add...

I have both Playbar and Beam setup with surrounds.

The Playbar is in the bedroom with two Sonos Ones as surrounds. The source is a 10 year old Panasonic Plasma. Not a smart TV just a great picture.

The Beam is attached to a 5 year old Sony with HDMI_ARC and two Sonos Ones as surrounds. The Sony might be considered a smart TV (low end)_since it has ARC and internet connection:8.

Here's the reason for the above.

A sub makes any Sonos speaker sound better although some say it's not needed with Play 5's in stereo pair. That's a matter of opinion as I use a sub with my Play 5's.

The Playbar in the bedroom sounds great as is without the Sub. The Beam on the other hand IMO demonstrated a great improvement to focus dialog after adding a sub.

So if I were ever asked whether or not a sub improves the sound of the Beam I'd say yes. It's not a deal breaker without the sub; but to my ear a worthwhile investment.

PS
Where is the TV going to be placed?

You might consider a reversal of the furniture and wait before buying additional speakers for Kitchen and dining area to see what results you get for music with the suggested setup. The TV and Beam are wall mounted:?




Cheers!
Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
cipo80Author
Contributor I
October 23, 2018
cipo80,

Firstly, a huge congratulations on purchasing your brand new home and all the very best of luck in the future with that.

Assuming you have no in-built ceiling speakers etc. or other existing legacy audio devices, my personal suggestion would be...

1. A Sonos Beam for the new LG TV.
2. Two older Play:1’s as 'bonded rear surrounds' for a 5.0 Dolby Digital surround sound with the Beam/TV. You could also later add the Sonos sub to that setup, if you think you would prefer the extra Bass. I think the setup will be fine without it, but try it and see.
3. I would also buy two additional Sonos One speakers for use in mono 'standalone mode' in the Kitchen and Dining Table areas.

All speakers mentioned will be capable of being 'grouped' together, if you then want to fill the whole room with your music. Use the surrounds in 'FULL Mode' for your music audio.

You can always buy additional Sonos one Speakers too, for the bedroom, if you decide you also want music in that room.

I appreciate you are not yet a fan of Alexa/Google voice control, but I suspect once you try those things and get used to using them, that you will find the voice control useful. I’m reasonably sure such control will be available in Italy by the time you move in.

So those are the devices I think I would buy for that sort of setup and size of room.

Hope that helps ?


Thank you Ken for the reply and for congrats also ;)

The Beam it's approved, all guys push me in that direction, my dubt was if the sound cover the dining table or not, but in this case there is the point 3.
I've one question for the point 2, the dolby is it a "pro" or a cons" if I don't watch movie in Dolby? And for the music?
I don't have a pay TV actually (too much work and little kid, we don't have time!) and here in Italy the free digital antenna broadcasts it's almost in SD and stereo, but the major 8-9 channels are in HD 720 in dolby.
I agree for the point 3, because if you check the layout the dining table isn't front to the TV, but I need to try before buying the ones.

Probably you're right also for the Alexa, as many times as I say "i don't need it" after some months I'll get it ;)

Have a great day!
cipo80Author
Contributor I
October 23, 2018
.......

PS
Where is the TV going to be placed?

You might consider a reversal of the furniture and wait before buying additional speakers for Kitchen and dining area to see what results you get for music with the suggested setup. The TV and Beam are wall mounted:?



Hi AJ, thank you for the reply, in answer to your question the TV and Beam in the layout will be wall mounted upper the furniture between the two balcony door.
Your attached design was the original room layout, but the boss (my wife! You know!?;) want to reverse the furniture to give more open-area that helping also when use the table extension.
I agree with her, but with that layout we've one big cons, the TV isn't aligned to the sofa and isn't aligned to the dining table and force us to use a swivel wall mount.
My wife prefer this layout, personally I like the original one.

I've ask to ken if the surround is useful also with the music or with stereo broadcast, what's your opinion?

Thank you in advance and have a good day!
Chris
Lead Maestro
October 23, 2018
You set the surrounds to full and then when listening to music they are full stereo and sound great
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cipo80Author
Contributor I
October 23, 2018
You set the surrounds to full and then when listening to music they are full stereo and sound great

Hi Chris, is it possible to change the mode "on the fly" or by profile mode? Or do I need to reconfigure all system every time ?

Thank you!
AjTrek1
October 23, 2018
You set the surrounds to full and then when listening to music they are full stereo and sound great

Hi Chris, is it possible to change the mode "on the fly" or by profile mode? Or do I need to reconfigure all system every time ?

Thank you!


Setting the surrounds to FULL only affects music playback. Surround (Movie/TV) material will not be affected.
Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
Chris
Lead Maestro
October 23, 2018
It auto switches. When watching anything via hdmi it will be surrounds. When playing online music it will be stereo.
Respect the Queue (2)Move (3)Beam (1) Era100 (2)ARC (1)SonosOne (1)Playbar (4)Play5 (4)Play1 (3)Play3 (1)Port (2)Connect (1) Roam (2) Ace (1)Connect:Amp (4)Sonos Amp (1)Sub + (9) Echo + Smartthings; (2)Play)