Pairing a Play:1 with the new Sonos One

HOLY COW IT WORKED. And Pink Floyd's Money sounds AWESOME with such a wide sound stage. I would imagine that it doesn't survive a reboot, though.

And yeah, it can also create a pair between a Sonos One and Play:5 (I have a Gen1 Play:5)... don't think I'd recommend such a pairing, but it's possible with this app.

Edit to add: After listening for a bit, if I turn the bass up, it's easy to tell that the Sonos One has a bit more "thump" to its low end over the Play:1... but I'm happy with the ability to create the pair, even if it's not official. 🙂

But Mike did the different aesthetics detract from the sound? :D

So you've confirmed they sound awesome. Hard not to have a dim view of Sonos' motives for limiting the option from day 1.

I don’t yet have any play ones but I find the SonoSequencr app pretty useful for making macros to quickly do all kinds of stuff.

Now need to find a way to add a play 1/one combo to a 5.1 setup. This pairing via a 3rd party app has confirmed however that it is not (on the surface at least) a technical issue but a commercial one.

I don’t yet have any play ones but I find the SonoSequencr app pretty useful for making macros to quickly do all kinds of stuff.

Now need to find a way to add a play 1/one combo to a 5.1 setup. This pairing via a 3rd party app has confirmed however that it is not (on the surface at least) a technical issue but a commercial one.
Very interesting/useful. But it would be also good to know any downsides. Is there any chance of bricking Sonos kit this way?

I don’t yet have any play ones but I find the SonoSequencr app pretty useful for making macros to quickly do all kinds of stuff.

Now need to find a way to add a play 1/one combo to a 5.1 setup. This pairing via a 3rd party app has confirmed however that it is not (on the surface at least) a technical issue but a commercial one.
Very interesting/useful. But it would be also good to know any downsides. Is there any chance of bricking Sonos kit this way?

I’d say that’s unlikely, but can’t say for sure.

What Marcus has demonstrated is that the stereo pair compatibility checking is done at the controller, which is what I’d inferred from his earlier information. Since he wrote the controller, he doesn’t do the check.

Stereo pairing by Sonos is actually easier than grouping. Once you have two synchronised speakers (hard), you just tell each one to play a single channel (easy).

However, for Sonos to do this properly with a 1 and a ONE, they will have to compensate for the acoustic differences using signal processing. This is not dissimilar to TruePlay.

But Mike did the different aesthetics detract from the sound? :D
No. 🙂 But remember, I have a Play:1 Tone and Sonos One, and those aesthetics are a lot more similar than a regular Play:1/Sonos One. (and yes, I realize the point of the question here, just pointing out that some setups may not have the drastic aesthetic difference in the first place)

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Now need to find a way to add a play 1/one combo to a 5.1 setup. This pairing via a 3rd party app has confirmed however that it is not (on the surface at least) a technical issue but a commercial one.
Yeah, that's one thing I noticed that the app didn't do... surround sound/5.1 (aside from the basic settings available in the Sonos controller). Because I have a Playbar with two Play:1's, and setting up a macro to unbond the Play:1's from the Playbar and set them as a stereo pair could be helpful at times. Plus, adding the unmatched Play:1/Sonos One pair as surround speakers.
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Very interesting/useful. But it would be also good to know any downsides. Is there any chance of bricking Sonos kit this way?
I would be surprised if it did. While the Sonos controller only sees one room after this pairing is done, the SonoSequencr app still clearly identifies the devices separately (while it only identifies my existing bonded surround sound setup strictly as "Playbar")... and like I mentioned, I would be surprised if this pairing lasted through a reboot. Trueplay might get a bit confused in this situation, as it tries to tune the audio of two different speakers... I didn't try to go that far at this point, since it is certainly unsupported.

I would be surprised if it did. While the Sonos controller only sees one room after this pairing is done, the SonoSequencr app still clearly identifies the devices separately (while it only identifies my existing bonded surround sound setup strictly as "Playbar")... and like I mentioned, I would be surprised if this pairing lasted through a reboot.

Yes, but you should not send any commands (with SonoSequencr) to the 2nd speaker of your stereo-pair.
If you search for devices again with your stereo-pair (on the devices screen pull down the table) you will see that SonoSequencr also only shows one speaker of your pair. You should only send commands to the "master" of your stereo-pair. The "master" is the device you select on the top (left speaker) when you create the sequence. Your new stereo-pair also gets his name from the master device.

I know this is a bit complicated and you have to think about what you want to do but it´t the fastest way to create a stereo-pair... and also without pressing any button on your device...

I would be surprised if it did. While the Sonos controller only sees one room after this pairing is done, the SonoSequencr app still clearly identifies the devices separately (while it only identifies my existing bonded surround sound setup strictly as "Playbar")... and like I mentioned, I would be surprised if this pairing lasted through a reboot.

Yes, but you should not send any commands (with SonoSequencr) to the 2nd speaker of your stereo-pair.
If you search for devices again with your stereo-pair (on the devices screen pull down the table) you will see that SonoSequencr also only shows one speaker of your pair. You should only send commands to the "master" of your stereo-pair. The "master" is the device you select on the top (left speaker) when you create the sequence. Your new stereo-pair also gets his name from the master device.

I know this is a bit complicated and you have to think about what you want to do but it´t the fastest way to create a stereo-pair... and also without pressing any button on your device...
Yeah, I know about not sending commands to the "slave"... I wasn't aware that I would need to do a manual rescan of devices to see just one after creating the pair. Good to know. Possible improvement to the app... update the records internally so if you create a pair, you stop tracking the "slave" as a separate device... or automatically initiate the rescan to reflect the change.

Oh, and to remove the one doubt I had... the pairing did survive a reboot. I pulled the plug on both players, plugged them back in, and the pair came back as a pair.

I'm happy now. :)

Obviously I'd still like this to be official... but in lieu of that, this is a great unofficial solution to the issue of creating a stereo pair with the Play:1 and Sonos One.

No chance of this working to add a Sonos One (along with a Play:1) into a 5.1 setup?