Sonos 11.1 Brings Sonos Radio

The manufacture could listen their customers and restore the functionality originally sold? That is, provide me an option to opt-out of all data collection by Sonos.

Or Sonos could give me all my money back and come collect? Why do I have to make more effort to sell and lose money for their financial gain (data sales)?

Yeah, good luck with that. As my father used to say “Wish in one hand .. .”.

Lyricist III

Agreed, not going to happen!

So instead of being complicit with something which is wrong (immoral) I’m standing-up for what I believe is right - Sonos providing me what I originally purchased - speaker they don’t report back on how they’re being used.

While they continue to try and to steal my data (enormously inconveniencing me) I will council anyone, and everyone I can to avoid buying from this morally bankrupt company.

I respect this is not your position, and I’ve no problem with Sonos providing a ‘look at everything I do option’, I just want it to be an option. Just like having, or not having a Facebook account it! Your choice.

You do know there is an opt-out for all usage data except that needed to run the system and diagnose problems, right?

N

Nollind

Prominent Collaborator I

Pretty much just seems to be a rebranding of existing local radio services (ie TuneIn), yet with the old brand still showing when playing a station related to it. So no real change from my perspective.

I dislike ads on local radio stations, so I still prefer Stingray Music, as its ad free and free of cost (as most cable TV providers include it) and you can skip, like, and block songs on their curated radio stations which are the best I’ve ever seen on any music streaming platform to date. Even the Stingray Music interface on Sonos for liking and blocking songs is the best I’ve seen and I wish all music streaming platforms (ie Spotify) replicated its functionality and layout as well. (Note Stingray Music does carry some actual local radio stations but it’s just seems to be a limited selection.)

I’m just glad that with this update, you can now remove TuneIn and aren’t forced to install Sonos Radio as well. Thank you for giving me these options.

Lyricist III

There’s an option in the iOS app under Settings/Data & Privacy/Use Personalization Service, but setting this to disabled does NOT stop the system trying to send a packet (several in fact) to Sonos every time you hit play/stop/whatever.

I repeat there is no reason for Sonos to be involved with the playback from local servers, nor music services like Spotify or Apple Music. I know this because I’ve stopped all such attempts.

The speakers make the request(s) directly to the music service, and then interpret the stream from those services. This does NOT involve Sonos. The reason there’s an attempt by the speakers to send data to Sonos is to steal it - plain and simple.

My agreement with Apple (the music service I now use, previously Spotify) is to stream me music. I accept they collect (accord to their privacy policy) some data, and if I don’t like it I can stop paying.

My agreement with Sonos was cash in exchange for speakers, NOT to provide them with insight into how and why I use them. They have changed the deal; we (owners) should be getting the money they sell our data for.

There’s an option in the iOS app under Settings/Data & Privacy/Use Personalization Service, but setting this to disabled does NOT stop the system trying to send a packet (several in fact) to Sonos every time you hit play/stop/whatever.

I repeat there is no reason for Sonos to be involved with the playback from local servers, nor music services like Spotify or Apple Music. I know this because I’ve stopped all such attempts.

The speakers make the request(s) directly to the music service, and then interpret the stream from those services. This does NOT involve Sonos. The reason there’s an attempt by the speakers to send data to Sonos is to steal it - plain and simple.

My agreement with Apple (the music service I now use, previously Spotify) is to stream me music. I accept they collect (accord to their privacy policy) some data, and if I don’t like it I can stop paying.

My agreement with Sonos was cash in exchange for speakers, NOT to provide them with insight into how and why I use them. They have changed the deal; we (owners) should be getting the money they sell our data for.

If you’ve “stopped all such attempts”, why are you here complaining about it? Is this mere posturing?

melvimbe

Pretty much just seems to be a rebranding of existing local radio services (ie TuneIn), yet with the old brand still showing when playing a station related to it. So no real change from my perspective.

I believe that’s part of it, but there’s the 30 or so stations that are exclusive to Sonos. So far, I like some of them, perhaps more because it’s slightly different flavors then what I’ve gotten used to with the radio streams I normally use.

Danny

Lyricist III

I’m complaining because I waste a mound of time every time there’s an update (like now). I have to monitor the network to see what ‘new’ domains they’re now sending to so I can add them to the firewall.

I also don’t think I should have to police a product I paid for under a different agreement.

I’m complaining because I waste a mound of time every time there’s an update (like now). I have to monitor the network to see what ‘new’ domains they’re now sending to so I can add them to the firewall.

I also don’t think I should have to police a product I paid for under a different agreement.

So you are posturing. Gotcha.