Introducing Sonos Move, Brilliant Sound Anywhere

I don’t think stereo Bluetooth is yet possible with iOS controller devices, albeit Apple 'may' have made it available to their AirPod headphones (not sure?). I’m hoping it will become available on the new iPhone to be announced on the 10th September (tomorrow).

Do you mean in the sense that left and right channels are sent to the same device? Or do you mean in the sense that an iPhone could be setup to send left channel to one speaker, and right channel to another? I assumed that the former was always the case. The latter, no. It's logical to assume that stereo paired speakers would handle it themselves, with one of the speakers being the master (like what Sonos does with a stereo pair)

I think some Samsung devices support dual Bluetooth playback, but not sure if it’s separate stereo channels. There are some Android Apps mentioned online for doing this, but not sure how good they are?

I just checked and my Galaxy S9 can do 2 bluetooth devices at once. I don't it's separate left and right channels. My S7 cannot.

I suspect if this can be achieved, it will perhaps be down to the controlling device and it’s software, rather than the Bluetooth speakers themselves, which will simply play the Bluetooth signal it receives.

Agreed. I don't think Apple and android have much to gain by setting up two channels/two channels setup. Better to just let the speakers handle it.

Danny,

I don’t believe a user can play to two Bluetooth speakers at the same time (currently) in iOS ... it’s not available on my iPad running iOS 12.4.1 ... I’m not sure what Apple are planning for their announcement tomorrow, but it looks like their users will be able to play to two Bluetooth devices at the same time (I don’t think it is separate left/right channels) probably the 2 stereo channels to both devices, at the same time.

I think Android has recently introduced dual Bluetooth playback and Apple is yet to catch up.

i will guess that if the mobile device supports dual playback over Bluetooth, then the Sonos Move will be able to work with that feature too, assuming it will behave like any other Bluetooth speaker, when in Bluetooth mode.

There’s a slight 'hint' (perhaps) in this Apple link under the title “And listen to what's coming this fall”...

https://www.apple.com/airpods/

Danny,

I don’t believe a user can play to two Bluetooth speakers at the same time (currently) in iOS ... it’s not available on my iPad running iOS 12.4.1 ... I’m not sure what Apple are planning for their announcement tomorrow, but it looks like their users will be able to play to two Bluetooth devices at the same time (I don’t think it is separate left/right channels) probably the 2 stereo channels to both devices, at the same time.

I think Android has recently introduced dual Bluetooth playback and Apple is yet to catch up.

i will guess that if the mobile device supports dual playback over Bluetooth, then the Sonos Move will be able to work with that feature too, assuming it will behave like any other Bluetooth speaker, when in Bluetooth mode.

That all makes sense. The use case for dual bluetooth speakers is likely for 2 pairs of headphones rather than 2 separate speakers. Like two people trying to watch a movie together on a plan or something like that. Separate channels wouldn't be helpful.

Hi All

As I mentioned in an early post I'd been scratching my head as to whether or not to buy two Moves. The downside being that they will not make a stereo pair in BT mode. Long-story-short I went ahead and purchased two. I have a decent Wi-Fi signal on my deck which is where I'd be using the Move anyway. Not much of a beach/lake guy and I doubt that I'm going to a lot of backyard Bar-B-Q's where I have to provide the speakers for music.

However, I do find it interesting that Sonos omitted the feature to make a stereo pair of the Move when in BT mode. IMO if Sonos didn't want to go completely wireless (as this speaker does) to create a stereo pair in BT mode they might have considered a wired link via 10-12Foot/3-3.6Meter_3.5mm cable designating the left speaker as director.

Another interesting point I discovered is that it may have been tossed around to make the Charging Ring a $80_USD option as evidenced by this CNET review. IMO that would have been a good idea to make the price point more appealing since the Move can be charged using a USB-C cable with power puck.

However, I do understand the rational for not making the Charging Ring optional. Sonos probably wants to re-coop R&D expenditures as quickly as possible. The Charging Ring @ $80 is probably very heavily inflated. BUT...people are more willing to pay for an object that looks more refined/integrated than a simple cable.

Really looking forward to getting my Moves to put them through the paces and report back with my opinion. BTW, I'm putting my two white Play 3's on eBay to offset some of the out-of-pocket cost for the Move's. 😉

Edit: The Charging Ring at $80 (as suggested by the CNET review) is 20% of the Move's cost. Relegating the Charging Ring to an optional accessory reduces the cost of the Move to $319.20 or as a more sellable retail price point of $320.99. That makes the move an almost 1 to 1 replacement at price point for the Play 3 which sold at $299. In the words of the late Arte Johnson..."Very Interesting"

Cheers!

However, I do understand the rational for not making the Charging Ring optional. Sonos probably wants to re-coop R&D expenditures as quickly as possible. The Charging Ring @ $80 is probably very heavily inflated. BUT...people are more willing to pay for an object that looks more refined/integrated than a simple cable.

I'm enjoying your posts on the Move but you are slowly talking me in to buying one 😬😬 The Ring is key for me as it can be grabbed and go, our current POS Anker Bluetooth speaker is never charged when I want it. But I still have a couple blocks.

What do you think about the weight of this thing and casual portability? 6 pounds or so right? is this still easy, grab and go weight or is this a little heavy to be carrying around on hikes, bikes and other human powered trips?

I would want to take it to the dock and out on the sailboat and kayaks but I think the IP rating is too low to risk or am I reading it wrong? The POS Anker with it's IP X7 rating ☹️ might need to stay.

What do you think about the weight of this thing and casual portability? 6 pounds or so right? is this still easy, grab and go weight or is this a little heavy to be carrying around on hikes, bikes and other human powered trips?

I would want to take it to the dock and out on the sailboat and kayaks but I think the IP rating is too low to risk or am I reading it wrong? The POS Anker with it's IP X7 rating ☹️ might need to stay.

At six pounds a casual move from the Charging Ring IMO isn't going to qualify as a work-out; but neither will it exhaust you. Transporting the move in a back-pack while hiking or bike riding really depends upon the length/distance to the destination point. Six pounds can be very annoying if it adds to your normal gear or worst dictates removing essential gear.

The IP rating isn't for salt water. Kayaking while rough at times on rapids may not be the best mode of transportation. While the Move is capable of a drop from 6 feet (as per official and un-official media) a constant rough buffering may not be in it's interest. IMO speakers designed for marine use are better suited for boating and/or heavy water excursions.

PS. Glad you're enjoying the posts...but don't blame me for spending YOUR money 😆

Cheers!

Can't wait !!! Pre-ordered the first day you were able to do so.... Now my daughter will be happy with a Bluetooth speaker out by our pool. Excellent MOVE (Pardon the Pun) by Sonos. Speaker #11

Hi All

As I mentioned in an early post I'd been scratching my head as to whether or not to buy two Moves. The downside being that they will not make a stereo pair in BT mode. Long-story-short I went ahead and purchased two. I have a decent Wi-Fi signal on my deck which is where I'd be using the Move anyway. Not much of a beach/lake guy and I doubt that I'm going to a lot of backyard Bar-B-Q's where I have to provide the speakers for music.

If you took it to the beach/lake/park or some other public space, a single mono speaker might be prefered anyway. You aren't going to want too much volume since it's a public space and there may not be such a clearly defined listening area. I'd still prefer it, but it's not as important as in a standard indoor room setting to me.

However, I do find it interesting that Sonos omitted the feature to make a stereo pair of the Move when in BT mode. IMO if Sonos didn't want to go completely wireless (as this speaker does) to create a stereo pair in BT mode they might have considered a wired link via 10-12Foot/3-3.6Meter_3.5mm cable designating the left speaker as director.

Would that mean that the channel would have to be converted from digital to analog, then back again? If this was considered, I would guess it wasn't done since customers may get confused and believe this was needed even in wifi mode, or that an extra accessory purchase would annoy customers. And of course, you don't want cables with your wireless speakers.

Another interesting point I discovered is that it may have been tossed around to make the Charging Ring a $80_USD option as evidenced by this CNET review. IMO that would have been a good idea to make the price point more appealing since the Move can be charged using a USB-C cable with power puck.

That would have been interesting. I hope the charging ring does get included as an accessory as I bet people will be interested in purchasing a extra. If you have a second home for example, it would be convenient to have a ring in both places. Personally, I want to a see a charging ring integrated with a wall mount accessory.

However, I do understand the rational for not making the Charging Ring optional. Sonos probably wants to re-coop R&D expenditures as quickly as possible. The Charging Ring @ $80 is probably very heavily inflated. BUT...people are more willing to pay for an object that looks more refined/integrated than a simple cable.

It could be a matter of perception too. Sometimes are turned off when an accessory option is given that they feel should be included in the cost.

Really looking forward to getting my Moves to put them through the paces and report back with my opinion. BTW, I'm putting my two white Play 3's on eBay to offset some of the out-of-pocket cost for the Move's. 😉

For me, it's a matter of not having any more places in and out of the house to put Sonos speakers. the Move will likely go in the garage, freeing up the Connect:amp to add more speakers to the back yard.

Edit: The Charging Ring at $80 (as suggested by the CNET review) is 20% of the Move's cost. Relegating the Charging Ring to an optional accessory reduces the cost of the Move to $319.20 or as a more sellable retail price point of $320.99. That makes the move an almost 1 to 1 replacement at price point for the Play 3 which sold at $299. In the words of the late Arte Johnson..."Very Interesting"

Cheers!

I can't watch youtube while at work, but was $80 what Sonos would charge for the device separately, or the actual cost? I would guess is that the cost is lower, as you're suggesting, and Sonos is taking less profit from including the ring as they would for selling the ring separately. I'd say that if the Move didn't come with a ring, the price of the Move would still be at least $350.

The Ring is key for me as it can be grabbed and go, our current POS Anker Bluetooth speaker is never charged when I want it. But I still have a couple blocks

To be clear...I wasn't advocating against the Charging Ring...I think it looks cool. 😎 However, having the revelation that it can be charged via a simple USB-C cable and power puck and still maintain the grab n' go aspect (to an acceptable degree); IMO it would have been nice to have had a choice. (i.e. Charging Ring or USB-C cable with power puck).

In the end I probably would have gone for the Charging Ring just to have the complete package....then again $160 in my pocket would have been great!

Edit: Sonos would not have to include the power puck with the 3.5mm USB-C cable. Sennheiser for example sells a $300 set of wireless ear buds that charge by USB-C. Only the cable is provided. The purchaser has to provide the power puck.

Cheers!