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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Ryan S
    Ryan SAuthor
    Retired Sonos Staff
    January 21, 2020

    My post regarding the discontinued support of a connect amp I have only had 2 years was deleted.

    Way to go...

    Hey Ron, your account doesn’t have any deleted posts, but there are two made here in this thread. We’ve merged several single posts from around the community into this main post so that everything can be in one place.

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    Virtuoso
    January 21, 2020

    Of course, there’s no guarantee that Bluesound (which doesn’t work as well, or sound as good, as Sonos anyway) won’t do the same kind of thing.

    If I replace Sonos, I’ll be looking for solutions where I can influence/control the software. This means Raspberry Pi units with good sound hardware, and open source distributed audio software.

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    4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300
    Headliner I
    January 21, 2020

    Not a good look at all.  The email mentions the legacy products were “introduced” between 2005-2011.  I had to go back and look at my order history, I bought mine in 2014 and have heard they were sold in 2015 as well.  Looking at my order history also reminded me the PREMIUM I paid for Sonos devices.  I understand that nothing is getting bricked at this point, but what I have is now mostly worthless.  And seems to be a lot of questions around running legacy and “modern” Sonos devices together.  And 30% off to “trade up”?  I thought that was pretty gimicky the first time I saw it and now it’s even worse.

    My Play 5 was bought WAY after 2011. Checking my account, it was registered with Sonos in 2017. I am REALLY annoyed that I paid a premium for a supposedly high end product only to find it’s not supported after 2-3 years. Not only that, but because I have it in my system all of my other components are effectively cut off from any future enhancements. Can’t believe any company would think that’s a good way to treat customers who’ve invested thousands in their products ! 

     

    One of my Play 5’s (old one) was replaced under Sonos warranty by Sonos but at a reduced purchase cost less than two years back. I kid you not.

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    Renowned Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    I’ll join the list of very unhappy people. This feels like a desperate move to generate sales that gives me no confident in spending money on Sonos. 
     

    I’ll have 2 Connects and a Play:5 affected. Aside from the possible bill to replace them I’m disappointed as I don’t want to buy a Port that has no physical controls and I’m nervous that the current Play:5 will discontinue at some point soon, and really want a voice control in any replacement. Also its so much bulkier. 
     

    I get that my system will still work on day 1 but it only needs a change to Spotify or Bandcamp or Tunein radio for lots of my experience to break. 
     

    Also (and this may be answered already - I’ve not had chance to read all the posts), presumably replacing products over time to manage the spend becomes a problem as new components won’t work with the legacy speakers?

     

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    The environmental damage of this is nuts thousands of players getting chucked - end of their useful life - what freaking marketing bozoism is this - IT PLAYS LOVELY!  Tell me your calendar is hosed and this is some bad April fool nonsense?! 

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    So the answer is actually in the announcement, 92% of shipped product still in use. Profits must be spiralling faced with the ever burgeoning and cheaper competition being released on a daily basis so, drastic times drastic measures, sell it as a legacy issue, put a pretty bow on it and then stiff the existing customer base!!! Way to go Sonos.

    i like many have been a ardent fan of the system and recommended to friends and family alike but not now. I saw the writing on the wall a couple of months back with the Bridge announcement and the constant dropping out that has only occurred with the launch of the “Recycle” program.

     

    3 Play Ones, 2 Play Three’s a Play 5 and a Bridge all destined for the bin, worthless second hand and fast becoming worthless left plugged in.

    i will be investing in a quality amp and hardwiring quality speakers into my rooms and then any of the cheap streaming devices plugged I to the amp, Christ for what I have wasted money wise on Sonos I could have an amp in each room connected to its own “disposable” dot or similar, proper speakers require no software updates to last a lifetime.

    as far as I am concerned I am done with Sonos unless they come up with a solution real soon and judging by the comments so far I don’t think I will be the only one.

     

    cant find new customers to invest and alienating the existing customer base, I can only really see the profit line plummeting even further

    Fubar

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    This is the biggest scam I can think of, charging your customers 70% to replace products that they spent thousands on when they are still working fine! SONOS should offer a dollar for dollar exchange program, anything else speaks in volumes for the longevity of SONOS. Anything else is a rip off to the existing customer base. I already got scammed when they discontinued all of the controllers I had purchased and were still working fine. Does SONOS ever consider the environment and the pure waste this is for our planet? SONOS=MICROSOFT=UNTRUSTABLE=MONEY GRABBERS

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I am livid about this.
    Never going to buy Sonos again.

    You have been hassling me for months with emails to upgrade and get Alexa or whatever and now turns out having a new speaker will brick your system!

    Unbelievable!

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    I just received the “notice of old equipment” email and ½ of my 18 Sonos products will be officially UN-supported soon.  Tragic amount of e-waste as a potential result with their “trade-up” program.  Too bad my old, now bricked C100 will be part of that waste stream as well - or??? (see pic) hehe

     

    modern product - huh?

     

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I own 18 Sonos devices including Playbar (x1), Amp (x1), Port (x1), Play:5 (x3), Play:3 (x1), Play:1 (x4), Sub (x2) , Connect:Amp (x2), and Play:5 Gen 1 (x3). 

    With this announcement, you’ve stated that you’ll no longer support updates to my newer Sonos products because my Play:5 Gen 1 (3) and Connect:Amp (2) devices aren’t “modern devices.”

    You’ve lost a “forever” customer. You’ve lost an advocate. You’ve lost a champion. And now you have a bitter former customer who will explain to anyone who asks why they should never buy a Sonos speaker. Those criticisms started today as I shared my story with 5000 Facebook friends. The moral of the story is simple. Don’t buy Sonos products because the company will eventually blackmail you to purchase new Sonos products or face forced obsolescence.

    I predict that this will be marked as the “we jumped the shark” day in Sonos history.

    I can’t remember the last time I was so furious at any company.

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