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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Well, this is unfortunate for both me and Sonos. If my “legacy” products, which I have many, stop working because of this decision, I have no intention of investing more money in Sonos products. I have been a longtime supporter of this company and have introduced their product as gifts to dozens of colleagues, friends and family. To keep me as a customer and proponent, a rethink of this decision is necessary.I don’t believe that a better solution cant be engineered that keeps these legacy products functioning while updating their newer products. 

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Just adding to general discontentment and frustration with how this is being handled. I hope your sentiment scraper can go this far to the “They be pissed off” side. 

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    Avid Contributor II
    January 21, 2020

    Pretty disgusted by this. I have spent a fair few grand on your products for you to go and walk away from them. Why? If you can continue to update new and old products today what is the problem? It's LAZY. Speakers should last longer than 5 or 6 years for goodness sake. 

    I certainly will not be buying into sonos again if this is your business model. 

    One product is 2017 and 2 in 2018. For fuck sake really?? 

    Paul 

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    World-Class Superstar
    January 21, 2020

    In the mail I received Sonos proposes me to replace my old Connect as it will be going ‘out of service’ in May 2020. I can get the Port with a 30% discount. Seems reasonable. Question: if I ‘Trade UP’ my Connect for a Port, will that eliminate the 65,000 barrier?

    No. At least not at the time of writing.

    Can I get a confirmation from a Sonos employee, please?

    I can confirm that there hasn’t been any announcement regarding the local library limitation of 65,000 tracks. The limiting factor has always been the memory on older devices, so having more memory available is great for future development, but the software team will need to determine what best to prioritize with the new lowest memory threshold. If there’s any news on increasing the storage for local libraries, we’ll be sure to share it.

    Thank you, Ryan S.

    @beynym I guess I don’t deserve a thank-you for answering your question (correctly) :relaxed:

    Yes of course you deserve a thank-you, but (if you don't mind me saying) I prefer to get an answer from a Sonos Employee.

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life.

    I’m afraid this is the part that possibly angers me the most.

    My product has not reached the end of it’s useful life.

    If it has, it will only be because Sonos has deemed it so!!

    Think I need a decent cup of tea…...

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    All of my legacy products have bricked as of today,non will connect and all all “offline” on the same day you announce that you will no longer support legacy products. Is this a coincidence?

     

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    So the writings on the wall.

    Play 5 this year, Play 3 next year, or maybe my Play 1, Playbar or my Sub?

    It’s  clear that this is part of the strategy to keep the money flowing in and turn Sonos into an Apple clone.

    Maybe it will work, and I understand things move forward, but it seems the upgrade path is being driven not by features but by a need to drive revenues. It’s a dangerous game and it’s got me looking at the Sonos Competitors for future purchases rather than signing up to a relentless upgrade path.  
    if it’s broken I would have replaced it with Sonos. Not so sure now....

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I’m trying to remember a bigger “fuck you” delivered by a company to it’s best customers

    This.

     

     “Dear fervent early Tesla adopters with a Roadster or older Model S: due to our increasingly complex software updates and the limits of our older hardware, we will no longer be supporting the OS on your legacy vehicles. We can’t be bothered to support multiple OSes. Your legacy vehicle should, maybe, work for a while. If you want, we’ll crush your Roadster and give you 30% off on a new model 3. Also if you park your model 3, Y, X or newer S near your legacy vehicle, it will not be able to receive updates either.”

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    I'm not even bothering to read the previous 15 pages as I can guess that people are thinking the same as me.

    Just received the email about my expensive play 5 gen 1 and connect amp both purchased in 2014 no longer being supported. 

    I also have 9, yes 9 Play 1s and a Boost. Yes big house.

    This is completely disgusting behaviour, an obvious attempt at a cash grab. In an increasingly crowded market for connected speakers, my response to Sonos is to go and screw yourselves.

    I will not spend another pound/euro on your hardware.

    When the endless software nags annoy me too much or when you no doubt bork my system with a software update 'cos I haven't upgraded to new hardware I will sell my 9 Play 1' s and Boost on the second hand market.

    Goodbye. 

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Very annoyed by this announcement. My Sonos is a system of 6 different items that I have grown over the years. I have today discovered that 3 items in my system are obsolete and so that means the rest of my products are also obsolete as they will no longer be updated as I have older products as part of my system.
    I've been a sonos evangelist for always and have been one of their beta testers for years. I am currently considering a beam for the TV to use with my other devices to further develop my system but I won't bother now and will move from sonos !! Very unhappy this evening !!!

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