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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I think a field installable updated microprocessor/memory board/wifi  module upgrade for all legacy products would have a market. Let me select one for each affected legacy product I have and I will install them myself. Instead of a 30% off Trade In coupon

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    Virtuoso
    January 21, 2020

    Our commitment is to support products with software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting for longer. The Sub is still being sold today.

    I do not understand; the Connect Amp and the Connect were still being sold till some months ago? And if the product has a specific name, it does not matter what year it was made in - a Connect is a Connect is a Connect. Ditto for Connect Amp.

    That does not appear to be the case. Connects and Connect:Amps from 2016 onwards are not flagged as outdated. Now, that better mean that they have updated hardware in them, otherwise ...

    In fact, one of the reasons I felt comfortable buying my three Connects on eBay was that the Connect was still on retail sale at the time (2017). They cost less than retail, but they were not cheap.

    Now all three are ‘outdated’.

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    4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300
    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    I completely understand the need to move to a newer codebase that’s not compatible with the earlier hardware, but this ranks pretty highly in a list of how not to do business.

    You have an ever-expandable system that people invest in, then pull this?

    Even if I did upgrade my Play 5 and Connect, how long until my Soundbar, Sub and Play 1’s have the same problem? My system is pretty small compared to a lot of folks, but I’m fuming about this - to say the legacy devices will be rendered useless is madness.

    I’d understand if you made the newer products / app support multi-instances, so we can have the old kit on a “legacy” instance, and the newer kit that supports it on a newer instance - then people can at least upgrade over time and replace devices in the legacy instance with devices on the new, offering an upgrade path with same goal and no cliff-edge.

    But back to the point above - how often will this happen in future - even if this happened every 10 years that's not good enough, without a flexible upgrade path. If this is the way forward, then I’m going to go backwards and dig out my older audio kit which most likely still works fine. I will not buy new connect / Play 5 so they can still work with newer kit, only to have replace that newer kit in another year or two. 

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    My post regarding the discontinued support of a connect amp I have only had 2 years was deleted.

    Way to go...

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Feel robbed. Gutted. I have a lot of cash tied up in these speakers. Sonos will loose a customer if I have to bin my speakers. 

    I seriously will not spend another penny on sonos.

    PR FAIL!

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Sonos have just tried to tell me that 9 of my devices will not work with my 5 newer devices from May. I have 4 Zone Players (my original system), 4 connects (added later) and 2 Play:5 (added a few years later).

    In total they are asking for £4000+ ($5200+) for me to trade up - or my home audio system will cease to work as advertised when I purchased it. 

    Im sure, in Europe, this breaches my consumer rights. Has anyone else discussed this with trading standards in the UK?

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Not a good look at all.  The email mentions the legacy products were “introduced” between 2005-2011.  I had to go back and look at my order history, I bought mine in 2014 and have heard they were sold in 2015 as well.  Looking at my order history also reminded me the PREMIUM I paid for Sonos devices.  I understand that nothing is getting bricked at this point, but what I have is now mostly worthless.  And seems to be a lot of questions around running legacy and “modern” Sonos devices together.  And 30% off to “trade up”?  I thought that was pretty gimicky the first time I saw it and now it’s even worse.

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    WARNING: PRICE CRASH AHEAD!

    Sell your Sonos stock ASAP!

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    I have over £2k of Sonos stuff and in the early days was delighted with it, I therefore recommended Sonos to friends who also invested heavily.

    With the bricking of devices announcement (which is morally corrupt and an environmental catastrophe idea) I sense this latest bit of news is part of the Sonos roadmap that is preparing to condition us to accept that our investments should be written off and that we should buy new equivalent products from Sonos, in effect we dont buy and own our system, we rent/lease it. It's much the same strategy Apple use with their enforced device upgrades via software updates that render older perfectly functioning devices useless, all done to protect their revenue. 

    I sense I will have to start warning people away from Sonos and probably start switching to an inexpensive solution like a Chromecast device with a cheap but more powerful £20 TDAxxxx digital Amp or an old Amp (that will likely still work after 20 or 30 years) and go for a retro look.

    I feel like I have been had, or very soon will be “had” in the same way I was with Apple, (I have vowed never to buy one of their products again and they have therefore missed out on 2 tablets, 4 phones, 2 laptops and 1 top of the range PC) since they bricked my devices with “upgrades”.

    I don't really buy that the loss of functionality will be down to 3rd party service providers, if new features are made available to 3rd parties via API changes the UI should be able to reflect this, stuff should not just stop working.

    I want clarity on what will remain and what services will go with future upgrades. Sonos, please can you publish a roadmap?

     

     

     

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    WARNING: PRICE CRASH AHEAD!

    Sell your Sonos stock ASAP!

    Shhh 🤫

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