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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    https://techknowbits.com/2020/01/21/insider-selling-sonos-inc-nasdaqsono-insider-sells-36453-shares-of-stock-updated-updated.html
     

    wowza!  Selling before bad news?

    But would the Chief Product Officer know about the upcoming cull and bad news. He most likely has a strong case for selling. A court order from a judge to cover a divorce, or a massive house purchase might cover it.

    But other than that it looks exceptional bad timing for him.

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    Owner since 2006: Legacy System(8.4):3*CR100:1*ZP80:4*ZP100:1*Play 5. - S1 System:1*ZP100:1*Z120. - S2 System:5*Amp:1*Port:2*Five:1*Arc,1*Move:1*Play Bar:1*Subwoofer:5*Play1 : Long live the CR100!
    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Has anyone else had an email telling them their Sonos system is going to be obsolete? It’s absolutely outrageous. My system is 5 years old. It wasn’t cheap. We had planned to add to this “whole house system” this year. What an absolute rip off. I can only suggest NEVER buying Sonos. It simply isn’t worth it.

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    walkman666
    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Anyone figure out how to apply the 30 % discount? I recognize that this is heresy for most here, yet am trying to complete the transaction. I even received a confirmation email.  Thanks

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    https://techknowbits.com/2020/01/21/insider-selling-sonos-inc-nasdaqsono-insider-sells-36453-shares-of-stock-updated-updated.html
     

    wowza!  Selling before bad news?

    But would the Chief Product Officer know about the upcoming cull and bad news. He most likely has a strong case for selling. A court order from a judge to cover a divorce, or a massive house purchase might cover it.

    But other than that it looks exceptional bad timing for him.

    Hard to imagine he would not. He owns the product, therefore would know about product strategy changes. 

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Ryan,  

     

    9 zone Sonos system tied into home architectural speaker system. I am ok with my components becoming legacy status as long as their current functions remain uninterrupted and  continues to work with future iOS or Android OS. It should be just updating iOS or Android app (not updating Sonos software). 
     

    Now that future Sonos software updates will be free from legacy shackles, does that mean it will have better features other than keeping up with AirPlay?  


    Will it support high def audio beyond current 44.1kHz/16-bits CD resolution?  Lack of support for “modern” high def audio has always been strange for company promoting hi-fi audio. It was understandable as old “legacy” system lacked horse-power and dac. But surely current “modern” Sonos components should be able to support at least 96 kHz/24-bits sampling, right?

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I have only had my play 5 for 4 years and it is already out of support. This is an appalling service and a complete waste of £500. I was a fan of sonos but this treatment in unacceptable 

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Anyone figure out how to apply the 30 % discount? I recognize that this is heresy for most here, yet am trying to complete the transaction. I even received a confirmation email.  Thanks

    Just post them your credit card, it’ll save time in future.

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    pwt
    Virtuoso
    January 21, 2020

    You’ll be able to split systems though and use your modern devices separate from your legacy devices both in the same household.

    @Ryan S Could you specify the details of this please? Will both parts of the system be controllable from a single controller? Will they share any settings (playlists, services, etc.)?

    This level of detail is essential to aid understanding of the impact of this change.

    Great question, and the team is working on this. We’ll have more to share on this in particular in May.

    @Ryan S I appreciate the response, but -- with respect -- that is not good enough. The announcement should not have been made until such details were worked out and clear. Sonos is not some toddler startup, it’s a mature company that should not be acting in so amateur a fashion.

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    4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300
    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    So is this what our country has turned into a throwaway society where products are still useable but are no longer supported?   Why buy your products if all are going to be only a few years away from being unsupported?  

     

    I will have to start looking for a product that doesn’t go into the waste bin after only a few years. Thanks, SONOS! 

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Also keep in mind that since they raised prices last week, that 30% discount is really only 20%. 

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