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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Nice money grab SONOS! I intend to continue to use my “Legacy products” until they stop working, then get a more economical alternative for Wi-FI speakers.

     

    Thanks SONOS

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Well, this is it for me, $3000 out the window. Leaving Sonos and not looking back..

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    Since this announcement means that the two Syfonisk speakers I bought in December will now be dead in the water due to the Play:5 in my network I will be writing to IKEA to find out how to return them for a full discount.

    I wonder how many of the companies Sonos has partnered with recently are going to be pleased about this decision.

     

    Why would they be dead in the water?

    Because inevitably the music streaming services that form a core part of the Sonos offering are going to modify their interfaces, and because of Sonos’ policy decision here my 1 month old speakers will not accept the necessary update to use them for no better reason than because I don’t want to throw away a perfectly functional Play:5.

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    Prodigy II
    January 21, 2020

    Are we witnessing “business suicide”, or is this merely a death wish on the part of Sonos?

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Utter BS. So Sonos rewards the early adopters of their system with a 30% off coupon? Guess what? Many of us spent 1000s of dollars on an unknown system only 6-7 years ago. You expect us to believe you can't work with these existing systems now?! What? We just throw them in a landfill? They are PERFECTLY GOOD speakers!! I would've never bought them if I knew they would be bricked and then profited on. 30% off? What a joke. So you only make 270% profit on doing this. Time to call in the attorneys. 

     

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    January 21, 2020

    Our commitment is to support products with software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting for longer. The Sub is still being sold today.

    I do not understand; the Connect Amp and the Connect were still being sold till some months ago? And if the product has a specific name, it does not matter what year it was made in - a Connect is a Connect is a Connect. Ditto for Connect Amp.

    With the Bridge, it is clear, with the Boost being the replacement. That said, did you stop selling the Bridge from 2015?

    I imagine faster chips and more memory have been added over time, and more recent hardware versions are still OK.  We don’t know how long for, of course.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    What device would replace a Sonos connect from May on, 

    The average house brick should do it.

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    I have a considerable investment in SONOS and had plans to expand to more rooms.
    Now I find out that many of the SONOS products, which I bought less than 2 years ago are obsolete.

    I do not mind losing new enhancements, but it does not take that much with a standardized (though proprietary) interface between products to continue current function support for these products.
    The SONOS statement that future system upgrades may be expected to disrupt the basic functioning of these products is very disturbing.
    At the very least, they should allow us to ship in our current legacy product, and have it tweaked and returned (perhaps a simple memory upgrade?) to meet the “modern” standard.

    This new SONOS direction suggests a likelihood that some of my currently “modern” components will eventually be obsoleted by future support changes.
    Why would anyone choose to invest in such expensive but intentionally short lived, disposable products?

    Very poor customer service and support.
    I should have gone with products that use industry standard interfaces instead of the SONOS proprietary system.

    It is odd that I bought a SONOs Connect and Connect:Amp in July 2018 and another Connect and Connect:Amp set a few months later. The 7/18 purchases are “legacy”, the later purchases are “modern”, even though the matching products look identical and were sold as being the same.
    This proves that the differences are likely very minor changes.
    I now have 3 products, bought in 7/18, that are legacy including a Play:5 (Gen 1).

    The upcoming upgrade should have been fully disclosed with the legacy product heavily discounted with a promise to distributors to exchange any legacy units that were not sold due to the situation. SONOS could then have upgraded the returned units and sold them as “modern”.
    Shame on SONOS for how this has been handled.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    If I may summarise my feelings in a single sentence, which seem to be echoed by many in this thread;

     

    This is ******** and you can **** *** if you think I will ever give this company any more of my money.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    So, what happens if I buy the new amp this summer? 

    If it comes with a newer firmware than my connects and play 5s that are losing support, will I be able to add it into the system? 

    I thought when adding new items the whole system ‘had’ to be updated to allow it to join. 

    I had this issue before, it left the 3 ipads I had bought to use as Sonos controllers no longer working with the system, they needed to be updated to the latest IOS and they couldn’t be. 

    I used a 3rd party app instead, but it was very annoying, and may be one of the biggest issues with this news. 

    Have Sonos basically stopped their customer who are building up a Sonos system from buying newer products? 

     

     

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