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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    I’ve been with Sonos for 20 years now.  I’ve purchased just about every product you’ve ever made from the beginning.  Over $10,000 worth of your equipment and I’ve sold even more for you with recommendations.  I’ve already thrown away the Controller 100, two Controller 200’s and 3 Bridges.  now you want me to “Upgrade” and give you more money.  I’m finished.  Bluesound here I come.  It’s better anyway.  It has High Resolution Audio.

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    Contributor III
    January 21, 2020

    If it wasn’t abusive enough to charge your longest serving customers an extra $170 for a Connect above the cost of a One SL in order to get an Aux Out instead of a built in speaker, now that $350 is useless and you want to charge an extra $270 for the Aux Out port?  No thank you.  Sonos is headed the way of Control 4 and other companies that abuse their locked in user base.  I’m out: selling everything and will buy from a more open vendor.  

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    jgatie
    January 21, 2020

    Since this announcement means that the two Syfonisk speakers I bought in December will now be dead in the water due to the Play:5 in my network I will be writing to IKEA to find out how to return them for a full discount.

    I wonder how many of the companies Sonos has partnered with recently are going to be pleased about this decision.

     

    Why would they be dead in the water?

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    Seems like Sonos has confused big ticket audiophile/home infrastructure assets as throwaway smartphone/app type products. They can hear above how very mistaken they are.

    The only way forward for Sonos I can see is for them to quickly announce a technical solution that will allow Legacy and Modern products coexist in user’s single system. So it’s an engineering problem; and they should be able to do it. They may have previously deemed this as not necessary investment; but I agree with others this is existential for them. I.e., no future if they don’t put this fire out fast.

     

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    pwt
    Virtuoso
    January 21, 2020

    Our commitment is to support products with software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting for longer. The Sub is still being sold today.

    I do not understand; the Connect Amp and the Connect were still being sold till some months ago? And if the product has a specific name, it does not matter what year it was made in - a Connect is a Connect is a Connect. Ditto for Connect Amp.

    That does not appear to be the case. Connects and Connect:Amps from 2016 onwards are not flagged as outdated. Now, that better mean that they have updated hardware in them, otherwise ...

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    Ryan S
    Ryan SAuthor
    Retired Sonos Staff
    January 21, 2020

    In the mail I received Sonos proposes me to replace my old Connect as it will be going ‘out of service’ in May 2020. I can get the Port with a 30% discount. Seems reasonable. Question: if I ‘Trade UP’ my Connect for a Port, will that eliminate the 65,000 barrier?

    No. At least not at the time of writing.

    Can I get a confirmation from a Sonos employee, please?

    I can confirm that there hasn’t been any announcement regarding the local library limitation of 65,000 tracks. The limiting factor has always been the memory on older devices, so having more memory available is great for future development, but the software team will need to determine what best to prioritize with the new lowest memory threshold. If there’s any news on increasing the storage for local libraries, we’ll be sure to share it.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020
    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I call BS. How is possible the Play:5 (released Nov 2009) is impacted by these potential “changes” and does not have enough memory or processing power to sustain future innovation, but the Play:3 (released July 2011) and the Play:1 (released Oct 2013) are not impacted?

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    Ryan S
    Ryan SAuthor
    Retired Sonos Staff
    January 21, 2020

    You’ll be able to split systems though and use your modern devices separate from your legacy devices both in the same household.

    @Ryan S Could you specify the details of this please? Will both parts of the system be controllable from a single controller? Will they share any settings (playlists, services, etc.)?

    This level of detail is essential to aid understanding of the impact of this change.

    Great question, and the team is working on this. We’ll have more to share on this in particular in May.

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    What device would replace a Sonos connect from May on, in order to keep the software updates and mantain the same functionalities as the Connect? Thank you 

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