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Contributor I
November 29, 2024

Upgraded One's SL to ERA 300'

Hello as the topic says I Upgraded system to Era 300’s with my existing Arc. Set up my 300’s with full anticipation set up some music and did hear a noticeable different. A bit more fuller in sound. 

Then I watched my favourite TV’s which I do way more then listening music and my hearth sank beneath the bottom of the earth straight into hell itself. Did i just get scammed?

The tv shows are often 5.1 digital. Not atmos. The ones do not support Atmos, so for the few things i do watch in it and love hearing, I thought hell  yea, i can afford to upgrade, lets do it! But its NOT a upgrade!? The 5.1 digital shows so far I hear nothing in the back, even at +15 volume on the surround option, nothing, the One’s were so much better! And the content on all the streaming are often 5.1. 

I read that the central speaker of the Eras gets turned off when put into surround? Fine, if thats what makes Atmos work/hear better do it, but if its not, turn it back on!? Please? I got a feeling that THAT are the speakers I would need to at least get the same performance as the One’s. Unless iam doing something wrong. I hope so but i fear i do not. 

There should be massive bold letters on the selling page that this will be your experience if you upgrade from One SL’s.. cause this feels so bad… for this kind of money. 

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16 replies

November 29, 2024

I am puzzled.  The Ones are compatible with Atmos, in that when used as surrounds, they will contribute to the the overall sound as instructed by the Arc, which does all the Atmos processing.

The Ear 300s only do the Atmos processing when used as standalone speakers or a stereo pair, I imagine that the better sound quality and upward firing speakers in the 300s would bring a bit of improvement, but I would not expect it to be transformational.  I certainly would not expect the sound to be worse than for “vanilla”5.1, and cannot think why that should be.

UKMedia
November 29, 2024

When you say that you’ve increased the volume, can you confirm that you are adjusting the Surround Audio for TV level? Have you checked the Surround Distance settings are correct? 

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Contributor I
November 29, 2024

I am puzzled.  The Ones are compatible with Atmos, in that when used as surrounds, they will contribute to the the overall sound as instructed by the Arc, which does all the Atmos processing.

The Ear 300s only do the Atmos processing when used as standalone speakers or a stereo pair, I imagine that the better sound quality and upward firing speakers in the 300s would bring a bit of improvement, but I would not expect it to be transformational.  I certainly would not expect the sound to be worse than for “vanilla”5.1, and cannot think why that should be.
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I dont know mate, I dont know why it is much much quieter then before. I know for a fact it is though, unless iam (not) hearing things. I did try to find information as if it would be a upgrade for me doing surround with 300 vs One SL’s. I didn’t get a single decent answer, but with black friday deal it was buy or not buy. I hope it would be better.. 

When you say that you’ve increased the volume, can you confirm that you are adjusting the Surround Audio for TV level? Have you checked the Surround Distance settings are correct? 

yea 0.6m - 3m and then +15 tv and +0 music. 

I guess what i could do it put back one SL and then compare the sound from Right back and Left back  one being Era one being SL. See what happens. 

UKMedia
November 29, 2024

You can only add two devices of the same spec as surrounds so you would need to change both.

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Contributor I
November 29, 2024

You can only add two devices of the same spec as surrounds so you would need to change both.

argh well then I guess i could do a comparison if I really want to make sure what is happening but even then if i prove it.. what then? 

UKMedia
November 29, 2024

You can only add two devices of the same spec as surrounds so you would need to change both.

argh well then I guess i could do a comparison if I really want to make sure what is happening but even then if i prove it.. what then? 

To be honest, I personally notice the difference mainly with Dolby Atmos connect when my 300’s are connected as surrounds.  There is a real difference when setup as a stereo pair.

Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)
Contributor I
November 29, 2024

You can only add two devices of the same spec as surrounds so you would need to change both.

argh well then I guess i could do a comparison if I really want to make sure what is happening but even then if i prove it.. what then? 

To be honest, I personally notice the difference mainly with Dolby Atmos connect when my 300’s are connected as surrounds.  There is a real difference when setup as a stereo pair.

Do you watch any Netflix of Prime? Most shows are 5.1 digital something from what i saw in the sonos APP, then there was next to nothing coming from the back. Could be the recording of the show didnt have it, but i doubt that a little bit.

UKMedia
November 29, 2024

You can only add two devices of the same spec as surrounds so you would need to change both.

argh well then I guess i could do a comparison if I really want to make sure what is happening but even then if i prove it.. what then? 

To be honest, I personally notice the difference mainly with Dolby Atmos connect when my 300’s are connected as surrounds.  There is a real difference when setup as a stereo pair.

Do you watch any Netflix of Prime? Most shows are 5.1 digital something from what i saw in the sonos APP, then there was next to nothing coming from the back. Could be the recording of the show didnt have it, but i doubt that a little bit.

Yes I watch both Prime and Netflix.  Try a Jack Ryan film as a test

Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)
Contributor I
November 29, 2024

You can only add two devices of the same spec as surrounds so you would need to change both.

argh well then I guess i could do a comparison if I really want to make sure what is happening but even then if i prove it.. what then? 

To be honest, I personally notice the difference mainly with Dolby Atmos connect when my 300’s are connected as surrounds.  There is a real difference when setup as a stereo pair.

Do you watch any Netflix of Prime? Most shows are 5.1 digital something from what i saw in the sonos APP, then there was next to nothing coming from the back. Could be the recording of the show didnt have it, but i doubt that a little bit.

Yes I watch both Prime and Netflix.  Try a Jack Ryan film as a test

 

There does not seem to be a Jack Ryan film on Netflix, there is on Prime, Jack Ryan Shadow Recruit but that is buying/hire.

UKMedia
November 29, 2024

I have a 4k Fire Cube and there is a free Jack Ryan fil in 4k that I always use to test.  Perhaps it’s a country or account restriction.

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