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I want to buy a Sonos Arc for my TV and a sub (maybe rear speakers, undecided) to create a home theater situation… also want to put a record player in the same room, would like to share that sub with it somehow and play through Sonos speakers in stereo. Originally I was thinking about getting 2 Fives to hook to the record player (in stereo) but if i link to the arc system to use the sub I’m afraid there might be issues like delay? Furthermore, I would like to install Fives in my garage and be able to play music from either the turn table or TV setup through them. How do I go about all this?

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nik9669aAnswer

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A Sub can only be bonded to one speaker/speaker pair at a time so I you have it bonded to the Arc it’s a tedious process of unbonding from the Arc and bonding to the paired Fives, and then the same in reverse to use it again in the home theatre setup. But with two Subs you’re set…

The Fives have a line-in so a turntable with preamp can easily be connected to your system.

The only “delay” you might experience is if you group a tv input to your Arc with other rooms. Those other rooms will have a 70msec delay, but if you can’t see the tv from those rooms you won’t know of the delay.

Sonos speakers have a capability called grouping. Any rooms can be grouped to play a source in sync across all of those rooms (unless it’s audio from the tv, as described above).

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nik9669aAnswer

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A Sub can only be bonded to one speaker/speaker pair at a time so I you have it bonded to the Arc it’s a tedious process of unbonding from the Arc and bonding to the paired Fives, and then the same in reverse to use it again in the home theatre setup. But with two Subs you’re set…

The Fives have a line-in so a turntable with preamp can easily be connected to your system.

The only “delay” you might experience is if you group a tv input to your Arc with other rooms. Those other rooms will have a 70msec delay, but if you can’t see the tv from those rooms you won’t know of the delay.

Sonos speakers have a capability called grouping. Any rooms can be grouped to play a source in sync across all of those rooms (unless it’s audio from the tv, as described above).

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Dan06lemAuthor

I don’t have space for a bunch of repetitive parts.

Can I preset a 70msec delay somehow and “group” the tv setup (arc, sub combo) with the record player (2 fives) for when I want to play music to take advance of the sub? Call them 2 different rooms even though it’s the same and link them together.

If I make “groups” like this is it difficult to unpair them then repair repetitively? Like if I want to play a movie and not be linked to a record player with the fives?

If this isn’t possible I guess I could hook the record player to a “Sonos port” and play directly though the TV setup? But that wouldn’t be in stereo mode or would it? Also, I think playing through an Arc system requires having the 100s or 300s included in the combo?

And do I need anything special to connect to more Fives in my garage or just plug them to an outlet for power?

Airgetlam

As was stated, when playing the turntable input, and not the TV input, there is no 70ms delay.

Groups are easy to make and break. What’s more challenging and time consuming is making and breaking ‘rooms’.

As long as your WiFi signal reaches your garage, you’ll be fine .

Bruce

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Dan06lemAuthor

As was stated, when playing the turntable input, and not the TV input, there is no 70ms delay.

Groups are easy to make and break. What’s more challenging and time consuming is making and breaking ‘rooms’.

As long as your WiFi signal reaches your garage, you’ll be fine .

when you say “As was stated, when playing the turntable input, and not the TV input, there is no 70ms delay.” You mean I can “group” the turntable speakers (room a) with the tv speakers (room b) with no delay because one of the fives is plugged directly into the record player? But if I tried playing TV sounds in reverse, through the Record player speakers, there would be a delay?

it will all be in the same area. If I did it like my original thoughts I’d play both “rooms” at the same time (it’s just one room though).

Yes the garage has WiFi.

Airgetlam

The original statement, from @nik9669a, was: The only “delay” you might experience is if you group a tv input to your Arc with other rooms. [Bolded for emphasis]

Since you’re not using the input from the TV, but the line in from the turntable, there will be no delay, across any and all grouped rooms.

Perhaps not important to you, but all Sonos analog line ins have this delay, so that Sonos can buffer the input for replay across any connected ‘rooms’. So there is a slight delay between the cartridge on the turntable and what plays on all rooms, but you’d only be aware if you were to stick your ears within an inch of the cartilage, and be able to hear it.

Bruce

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Dan06lemAuthor

another option I read is “use two Fives as rear surrounds for your home theater” then I guess I could use the “Sonos port” with the record player to link to the tv’s system? Would that be best? then both systems would have more pieces in the same “room”?

Airgetlam

Yes, if you use the Sonos Fives as surrounds, the line in on them is disabled. I’m of the opinion that using Fives is overkill for surrounds, I’d use a pair of Sonos Era 100s or Sonos Era 300s, and utilize (as I do) the Five for music.

All Sonos analog line ins, including those on the Port, can be directed to play in a particular ‘room’, which doesn’t have to be the ‘room’ of the speaker they are in. If you were to use the line in on a Sonos Five, you could have that not play on the Five, but on your Arc, if you chose. The same with the line in on the Port, you chose which room it plays in.

Bruce

buzz

Grand Maestro

When used as surrounds, the FIVE’s will be absorbed into the surround “Room”, will not be visible separately in the controller, and their Line-In will be disabled.

PORT is a great solution. All Rooms Grouped with PORT’s Line-In will be time aligned.

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Dan06lemAuthor

The original statement, from @nik9669a, was: The only “delay” you might experience is if you group a tv input to your Arc with other rooms. [Bolded for emphasis]

Since you’re not using the input from the TV, but the line in from the turntable, there will be no delay, across any and all grouped rooms.

Perhaps not important to you, but all Sonos analog line ins have this delay, so that Sonos can buffer the input for replay across any connected ‘rooms’. So there is a slight delay between the cartridge on the turntable and what plays on all rooms, but you’d only be aware if you were to stick your ears within an inch of the cartilage, and be able to hear it.

Thanks for clarifying. Basically the sound compared to tv picture would be delayed because all “analog line in’s” have this delay is the message I think.

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Dan06lemAuthor

When used as surrounds, the FIVE’s will be absorbed into the surround “Room”, will not be visible separately in the controller, and their Line-In will be disabled.

PORT is a great solution. All Rooms Grouped with PORT’s Line-In will be time aligned.

So you wouldn’t use the Fives in the surround system? “Absorbed” sounds negative.

However, you would use the Sonos Port with the record player? Then just connect the Fives through WiFi?

And my “grouping” the “rooms” with the port, the fives wouldn’t be absorbed?

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