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Contributor I
January 14, 2018

Second generation playbar?

Any word on a possible second generation Playbar in 2018 or 2019? Seems like it is past due for a facelift if it wants to compete in today's home theater market. Thoughts?
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    Keith N
    Sonos Staff
    January 15, 2018
    Hey there, Bheelan. Thanks for posting! No word on a second generation PLAYBAR to share. Are there specific improvements you would like to see on the PLAYBAR? Feedback is always appreciated.
    Building community is like building a garden. You build the frame, till the ground, plant the seeds, feed the plants & sometimes you gotta pull the weeds.
    Headliner I
    January 16, 2018
    Hey there, Bheelan. Thanks for posting! No word on a second generation PLAYBAR to share. Are there specific improvements you would like to see on the PLAYBAR? Feedback is always appreciated.

    White color
    Full tv audio/multi channel stereo in a surround setup
    Hdmi ports for input apart from optical
    Decode more audio formats (dd+, mpeg-h, atmos, dts)

    Or add to the lineup a little upgradable device just to extract audio from hdmi, decode it and send to Sonos (like a chromecast dongle).
    Enthusiast II
    January 16, 2018
    YES! Sonos absolutely must add HDMI as in input and support the very, very common DTS codec.
    Personally, I am fed up with the very limited DD5.1 codec being my only option with this system. Otherwise, the Sonos 5.1 configuration is outstanding.
    I have to say, if there's no new Playbar announced by the end of 2018 (with these features), I'm going to replace mine with one of the many. many other choices out there.
    Lyricist III
    January 16, 2018
    Hi all. New to this forum.
    O.k here is where i am at, i have a tv with optical connection, ps4 and a youview box (England) all of which i get dolby 5.1 surround sound using playbar, sub and 2x play 1s through optical connection to which is our only option.

    So i am reasonably competent geekwise.

    I have only realised this evening that after reading various Sonos related forums DTS dvds are not working through our systems.
    Batman dark night, full 5.1 dolby great i am happy, Will Smiths "I am legend" full 5.1 playing through blu ray on Ps4.

    Onto Star wars force awakens, dvd box states 7.1 dts english, BUT if i can understand and like dubbed Hindi Great my Sonos plays 5.1 surround sound.

    Is Sonos the 5.1 problem?
    7.1 surround dts, do i want speakers in my ceiling and floor no thanks!
    Earlier mentioned whilst experimenting put star wars force awakens blu ray into ps4, no sound! Changed ps4 blu ray languge settings to Hindi I got full 5.1 surround sound.

    WTF !!!!!!!!
    Airgetlam
    January 16, 2018
    Might be worth digging in to the licensing for DTS, and the costs associated with it?
    Bruce
    Lyricist III
    January 16, 2018
    WHAT !
    Lyricist III
    January 16, 2018
    This is shear Racism !
    Why can a Hindi get 5.1 through his system, yet English spoken individuals can but cannot understand a single word except Jedi. DTS has a problem Luke! or Dolby or dvd makers.....
    Airgetlam
    January 16, 2018
    Why does the language one speaks have anything to do with race?
    Bruce
    Enthusiast II
    January 16, 2018
    Hi all. New to this forum.
    O.k here is where i am at, i have a tv with optical connection, ps4 and a youview box (England) all of which i get dolby 5.1 surround sound using playbar, sub and 2x play 1s through optical connection to which is our only option.

    So i am reasonably competent geekwise.

    I have only realised this evening that after reading various Sonos related forums DTS dvds are not working through our systems.
    Batman dark night, full 5.1 dolby great i am happy, Will Smiths "I am legend" full 5.1 playing through blu ray on Ps4.

    Onto Star wars force awakens, dvd box states 7.1 dts english, BUT if i can understand and like dubbed Hindi Great my Sonos plays 5.1 surround sound.

    Is Sonos the 5.1 problem?
    7.1 surround dts, do i want speakers in my ceiling and floor no thanks!
    Earlier mentioned whilst experimenting put star wars force awakens blu ray into ps4, no sound! Changed ps4 blu ray languge settings to Hindi I got full 5.1 surround sound.

    WTF !!!!!!!!


    You are running into the issue we are all dealing with. If the Blu-ray disc is only encoded in DTS (which is very common now) or Atmos then the hugely expensive 5.1 Sonos system you now own will only do 2 channel stereo. According to Sonos, if you don't like it - too bad. As a Sonos rep posted here a while back - "they are only interested with the modern viewer that streams their movies and doesn't use a Blu-ray disc".
    Your only solution to get surround sound to work with the thousands of Blu-ray titles out there, is to buy (yes, lay out more money) for a Blu-ray player that will down-sample DTS on-the-fly- to DD 5.1. As far as I know there are only 2 that do this. The Samsung K8500 and the Oppo UDP-203.

    There are many long threads on this forum about this enormous issue. But, so far Sonos doesn't seem to be at all inclined to do anything about it. It boggles the mind since even a inexpensive, entry level sound bar will decode DTS. As you discovered the current Blu-ray discs use the more archaic (more compressed too) DD5.1 for the alternate multi-national languages. This is just yet another example of how DD5.1 is being quickly deprecated.
    Lyricist III
    January 16, 2018
    Only one race can understand, race is not a colour.