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Evander
Trending Lyricist II
September 2, 2015

DTS, Dolby 5.1 on Playbar, 2015 edition!

Hi all

I am writing this post in the hope it may help those struggling with the above issue(s). The first topic which appears on this in Google is the post at https://en.community.sonos.com/home-theater-228993/solving-the-51-dts-issues-with-the-playbar-34523, which is now out of date. For my part I wanted to set out what I did to "resolve" this issue (or more accurately, work around it).

Since the above post, Sonos have written a few useful notes. The most helpful is: https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1945/~/maximizing-playbar-sound-from-your-television.

A further note deals with the XBOX work around (https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2490/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNDQxMjA4NzE0L3NpZC9JdER6cXR2bQ%3D%3D) and another provides the details for PS4 (https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3075/related/1).

The Issue

Playbar with 2 Play:1s and a Sub is a 5.1 Surround system. However, because the Playbar connects through a Digitial Out/Toslink/SPDIF, its limited bandwidth prevents it from EVER being compatible with DTS-HD, Dolby True-HD or any other lossless/HD audio. However, it is possible to play Dolby 5.1 providing your TV can output a Dolby Digital signal through the Digital Out.

People realise that they are only listening to Stereo when they go to About My Sonos System and realise that the AUDIO IN listed under PlayBar is STEREO. When its 5.1 it will say Dolby Digital 5.1, or when Dolby Digital 2.0, exactly that.

DTS

DTS will have to be re-coded as Dolby Digital to be played by the PlayBar, else it will be silent (displaying "Audio not supported"). There is no way of playing DTS itself.

Work arounds: My experience

I read the above post and went off to buy a switch (although, this one in the UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DZIXIMQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, called Portta 4x1 HDMI Switcher with Toslink and Digital Coaxial Port 3D Splitter with Remote and AC Adapter/ 3D 1080P). When I connected my BD-Player to this by HDMI, with my STB and TV, and connected the switch to the Playbar, it started to play 5.1. Result. However, this is a poor solution as you have to manually switch between inputs, have another remote, cannot use a magic remote or the input management system on the TV etc.

I thought about buying an XBOX (which my research indicted is the better media system when compared to PS4) it (with PS4) decodes DTS to DD 5.1 "on the fly.

I also thought about buying the OPPO BDP-103 for a whopping £400 as suggested by the post.

However, there are literally a handful of BD Players which also re-code DTS to DD (please see SONOS's own post). I purchased the Samsung BD-H6500 for a very reasonable sum and can now play DTS easily on the Playbar (obviously, recoded to DD5.1).

I have set my system up as follows. My LG 55EC930V is connected to the Playbar. This TV outputs Dolby Digital (and I think, even Dolby Digital Plus) via Digital Out. I have then connected my Virgin Media STB to the TV via HDMI (STB set to output Dolby Digital Audio) and the BD Player via HDMI, which is set to output recoded DTS.

My issue was that my wired Home Cinema system (Panasonic SC-BTT270) would not output DD as it only had an Optical In, so I had to buy a new player. I highly recommend the one I bought, it plays great.

Also, my Playbar also plays 5.1 from Netflix, Amazon Prime video and Live TV (though, not Youtube for some reason).

Other work arounds

You can also work around the DTS issue by connecting the Playbar to an XBox or PS4, or at worst, a switch.

I hope this helps!!! 🙂
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136 replies

Lyricist III
December 22, 2015
I think SONOS don't know what market they are in, other wise the playbar would have HDMI and DTS.
Their "Market Monitor" needs to go to specsavers :)

I'm going to use SONOS sales techniques and sell flying cars.
Of course You'll have to buy the wings and test it yourself, let me know which ones work and I'll make a list on the web site.
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Lyricist I
December 22, 2015
Hi! Iam totally new to all of this, I got the playbar maybe 1.5 years ago. After reading pretty intensely last night I realised I was only getting PCM sound from my sonos playbar. I did some changes to the tv:s settings and in in apple tv(3 generation). Now when I play something from the appletv and I got to sonos app to check what the soundbar is playing it says "Dolby digital 5.1" When i change back to how I had it for almost 2 years it says PCM Sound. So my Tv can pass through DD 5.1 via my optic cable when iam watching something on my apple tv3(netflix in this case),

Does this then mean my TV has support for DD 5.1 via optic cable in all cases? Aka if i feed my tv a DD 5.1 sound, with no regard to source my optic will pass it through to my Sonos playbar correctly?

If anyone is curious my tv is a 60 inch LG pm 670t
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jgatie
December 22, 2015
Yes, if you are getting DD 5.1 from an hdmi source, your TV passes DD successfully.
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Lyricist I
December 22, 2015
Yes, if you are getting DD 5.1 from an hdmi source, your TV passes DD successfully.

Awesome! Thanks for the answer.
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Lyricist II
December 23, 2015
Hi guys, first post so please be gentle.

Just received my Playbar today and so far so good. Read most of the forum on DTS so won't rant about that because to be honest I knew what I was getting, but just wanted to ask to see if what I'm seeing should and is right.

Ok so my setup, a Sony 50W829B with Sky HD, PS4 and X1 plugged in via HDMI and an optical cable from the TV to Playbar.

On Sky and also Netflix on PS4 the SONOS app shows DD 5.1 (win, clearly working ok) but when watching a Blu-Ray on PS4 with a DTS-HD track it shows as Stereo, is that right?

I'm yet to try a Blu with a DD track, DVD or the X1 but I guess I've got it right?

Thanks.
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Lyricist II
December 24, 2015
After some further testing it seems the PS4 DOES NOT re-encode DTS to DD on the fly, but the X1 does!

Looks like the X1 has just become my default Blu-Ray player now.
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Trending Lyricist I
December 24, 2015
So Sonos still no DTS in 2016 come on? Get of your chairs and do your homework! DTS support please!
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jgatie
December 24, 2015
So Sonos still no DTS in 2016 come on? Get of your chairs and do your homework! DTS support please!

It's not even 2015 yet, so either your calendar is wrong, or you take Sonos' statement about DTS at face value and are just blustering with these over-the-top posts.
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Trending Lyricist I
December 24, 2015
Hahaha you must work for Sonos!
its time they realize that customers need the DTS support! Are they awake in 2016?
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Contributor I
December 25, 2015
I must say, I rate myself as an enthusiastic amateur when it comes to audio. I've invested in Sonos both at work and at home and would say we've spent close to about £5k on the kit in total. The most recent move was the playbar and sub, and went into it presuming it would just work, like all previous Sonos facilities.

I've got a samsung 4k TV which does output 5.1 over optical. I've found the about my Sonos feature and can happily report Netflix, sky, Amazon all doing what you would expect.

The punishment however is blu ray. If I stick something new in like inside out or the star wars boxset then all they have is DTS tracks. If I watch them in a different language then they have DD 5.1 but good old fashioned English I am treated to silence, until I disable the Sonos and use the TV speaker. Something I am capable of doing but the wife and indeed kids don't understand why, also the phantom menace pod racer scene is a whole load better with the rumble of the sub behind the couch, as we found out watching it through sky.

I've found a setting on the blu ray player that will convert but it seems to just throw it to 2.0 - I need to play with this more.

Now I do have a Xbox one but that's in another room at the moment. What's that going to bring to the party? Is it going to convert the DTS to DD 5.1 or just down to 2.0 like the blu ray player does?
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