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I am in the process of moving into a new home that needs to be wired with a whole house speaker system. There will not be the opportunity to install volume controls in each room.

I would like to use my Denon Receiver that has two zones for Multi-Sourcing to other amps with RCA cable to split the signal and power 12 pairs of speakers I currently have in my home.

My question is can the Sonos Amps connect to my receiver and daisy chain with other Sonos amps so one music source can feed all the Sonos amps in sync?

My Denon receiver Is the main source for my home theater and multi-sourcing thru-out the house and in need to somehow control the volume with each set of speakers.

Complicated question and I hope it makes sense.

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AirgetlamAnswer

If you connected the line out from the Amp to a line in on the Denon, it could play anything the Amp could play…with one caveat. The analog line in on the Amp has a 75ms delay, so anything you send from the Denon to the Sonos system would have that 75ms delay.

You’ve gone a step further, however, by adding an Apple TV. While if the Apple TV is playing via the digital input (HDMI ARC), it will play on that particular Amp, and any Amp ‘bonded’ as surround speakers at the same time, with lipsync. Any other devices with speakers (the third Amp, or your Denon device, will be delayed by 75ms, due to the nature of the Sonos.

The difference between a Sonos Port, and a Sonos Amp is essentially the Amp has a, well, amplifier in it that can drive its own set of connected speakers (and some slight input differences.

If your ultimate goal is to play speakers in other rooms, you’d likely want Amps to drive each ‘room’ (essentially a pair of speakers, although can go higher, depending on the speakers). As long as you’re not concerned about 100% sync, and can live with a 75ms delay between the TV room, and any ‘grouped’ room, than the ARC output from the TV set can be sent to a Sonos Amp. If instead, you’re more interested in playing music in sync, then a Sonos Port connected to the Denon will work, although any and all Sonos speakers will be slightly related from the Denon speakers (but all Sonos devices will be in sync).

I feel like I’m talking around all sorts of potentials. What is your ultimate goal?

Bruce

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Stanley_4

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It’s wild that people prefer Sonos wireless over wired.

Why?

Outside of situations where a reliable wifi connection can't be established what is gained from Ethernet?

Is that gain worth giving up 1 of the three available wifi channels for?

jgatie

I hope no one is under the impression that a wired connection results in an increase in music quality, because nothing could be further from the truth. Sonos doesn’t degrade music streams due to lack of bandwidth, at least not subtly. A stream is streamed as is, and if bandwidth or interference becomes an issue, the stream will noticeably stutter or drop out.

AjTrek1

It seems this firestorm about Ethernet vs WiFi for music quality was result of a member not understanding the context of the OP’s question.

At no time in my response to the OP was music quality mentioned nor was the OP’s question remotely hinting at music quality. The Question was asked in regards to large groupings TAXING a WiFi network relating to communication (stability) which can occur.

Therefore the OP asked might using Ethernet to connect all devices be better for communication (stability) when grouping. My response was yes.

I hope this clarifies things before other OP’s pick up this thread and are further confused.

Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.

jgatie

I think maybe one of the usual suspects is throwing a wrench in the works. Just another normal day in the Sonos forum.

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Muggles

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Wireless isn’t as reliable as wired ime. But you guys do you and keep going off over sound quality bs.

jgatie

Wireless isn’t as reliable as wired ime. But you guys do you and keep going off over sound quality bs.

Actually, in the case of low latency surrounds and subs, it has been found that the wireless connection is far more reliable than Ethernet due to the direct connection vs. having to traverse the network. So be careful with your generalizations.

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Muggles

Lyricist III

Wireless isn’t as reliable as wired ime. But you guys do you and keep going off over sound quality bs.

Actually, in the case of low latency surrounds and subs, it has been found that the wireless connection is far more reliable than Ethernet due to the direct connection vs. having to traverse the network. So be careful with your generalizations.

IME = in my experience. Stating my experience not generalizing. Be careful with your comprehension.

Moderator Note: Modified in accordance with the Community Code of Conduct.

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SWAdudeAuthor

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I noticed there are two ethernet ports on both the Port and Amp. After you plug the port into the ethernet router can you attach the Port to an Amp with the other ethernet port and it also will receive the signal from the network? And then that Amp to another to form a network? And so on if you now what I mean.

It may be why it it designed that way but if not, why the two ethernet ports?

Thanks again.

Stanley_4

Grand Maestro

It is a two port switch, 10/100 I think, so it is slow and there is a limit to the daisy-chaining depth if I'm remembering correctly.

Given a five or eight port GB switch is around $20 I'd skip using the built-in port in almost any case.

Stanley_4

Grand Maestro

Found it!

https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/recommended-settings-for-rack-mounted-products

You can use the dual Ethernet ports to connect multiple Amps or Ports to each other. However, connecting each product directly to a switch is preferred whenever possible.
Do not connect more than four Sonos products via Ethernet to each other in a row or you may experience network instability

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