Delay compensation when used with AV receivers

I agree to the feature request!

I'm using a ZP90 connected via (doesn't matter, tried everthing: optical, coax, analog) to my Yamaha 467, witch produces an delay in relation to a S5 in the same room, if i configure it to use the 5.1 system.

So i need to configure the S5 to intonate a few ms later then the ZP90. But as we know, i can't.

So please include this feature!

Yep you read that right! I want to deliberately offset some of my zones by a few seconds.

I have 4 zones and one plays via a ZP90 through a TV (yep I know horrid speakers but that's what it is doing for now). Trouble is the TV (a decent Sony) has a time delay in processing the audio and lags behind the other zones.

I want to be able to say this zone is running xxxx MS slow (give me a slider on the desktop app or an input box and I'll use trial and error to get it audibly close enough - if I can't hear the difference then that's good enough for me). and then use the buffering that each of the other zones already has built in to enable a tweak in the timings so they match.

The time difference is consistent so it should be fixable.

I bet I'm not the only person in the world running a ZP through something that has a delay in processing.

Please take pity on those of us Sonos users who don't have lovely amps 😃

+1 I have exact same setup and problem as nick

Yes, please. This is a mandatory feature for anyone running a ZP through a receiver or pre/pro, and then linking that ZP to one or more amped ZPs.

Using a "direct" mode works sometimes, but is usually not desirable, as it defeats bass management, room EQ, etc.

At present, it's just completely unworkable to link zones with any kind of external processor in the mix.

Has there been any acknowledgement from Sonos on this topic? I just purchased 3 S5's a 120 and a 90 and the 90 is completely worthless. I'm using a YSP-4000 Sound Bar that provides the audio in my main room. Now I have a system that sounds amazing in the bedrooms, kitchen, yard and nothing in the living room. If every receiver has this same processing delay, why does Sonos even make the ZP90? Please add a delay option for the other zones.

why does Sonos even make the ZP90?
Because my tube amplifier works like a charm with a ZP90?

(but i agree on the delay problem; had the same issue with a Harman Kardonn HS350)

Has there been any acknowledgement from Sonos on this topic?
Welcome to the forums.

Sonos keep an eye on posts here but tend to participate relatively rarely. They have a habit of not discussing potential future developments.

Welcome to the forums.

Sonos keep an eye on posts here but tend to participate relatively rarely. They have a habit of not discussing potential future developments.

Ah, Thanks Ratty. I'll keep my fingers crossed with everyone else 🙂

This thread is of particular relevance to me as I take delivery on Monday of a Cullen modified 96kHz Re-clocker ZP90. I plan to connect this by coax cable to use the internal DAC within my HK AVR4500, normally used for home theatre surround sound processing. I recently realised it can handle 96kHz, and indeed 192kHz, signals natively. My original thought had been to add a W4S DAC-1, but I have now decided to walk before I run on this to gain some experience especially with the echo/delay, subject of this topic. The DAC-1 may/may not now happen!

Having just installed a ZP120 plus a pair of Linn Sweetspots into my Bathroom zone yesterday (chilled to Handel's Water Music in the bath last night, LOL), I grouped all four upstairs zones together a few minutes ago (that's 2xZP120; 1xS5; 1xZP90) and synch is first class as I move from room to room, more than acceptable.

I have two fall back options up my sleeve for party mode downstairs (eventually the above mentioned Cullen ZP90; 1 existing S5; and a new ZP120)...
1) Feed the ZP90 analogue o/p to the AVR4500 Direct FL+FR i/p, ie use it just as an amp, no digital stuff in the path.
or
2) If this is still problematic, I may just buy another S5 for the high quality listening zone, exclusively to be used for party mode situations. Bit messy and costly, but should be OK.

I plan to mock up this new high quality listening zone ASAP to hear what actually happens with zone grouping. Will post my findings.

Having just installed a ZP120 plus a pair of Linn Sweetspots into my Bathroom zone yesterday

Off topic, but out of interest how do you find the Sweetspots? My main complaint with them is their inefficiency which means they don't go very loud, but you've said before this probably isn't a problem for you.

Just wondered how you felt now you have them in and have used them in anger?

Cheers,

Keith