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Contributor I
December 25, 2013
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Creating 5.1 with non-Sonos Subwoofer

Sub disabled when Setting up SONOS CONNECT:AMP as Surround Rears Why are you disabling the subwoofer out when configuring the Connect Amp to drive non-Sonos rear speakers with a Playbar? I have a my own sub that i want to connect to the Connect Amp so that it can be driven along with the rest of the system. I do not want to buy another Sonos sub. Surely this would just be a software or firmware update that is easily achievable.
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Chris
ChrisAnswer
Lead Maestro
March 14, 2018
It's not possible. A 5.1 system has a discrete .1 channel.

The Connect:Amp is only able to receive a stereo signal (R/L). In this case the R/L is the right and left surround sound. There is no dedicated chanel to send to the Subwoofer.

The original design of the Connect:Amp was not to be used in the manner of surrounds. Its original hardware takes a stereo signal. Filters it through a crossover - sending higher frequencies to left/right channel speakers and the lower range to the subwoofer output. So the subwoofer output sits between the stereo input and the speaker output (just as a normal sub would). There is no direct channel to the subwoofer just a processing of the stereo signal.

Therefore, there is no reason to have the subwoofer active. There is no reason to filter out the low end output from the surround sound mix (as the surround sound mix doesn't have the LFE channel or really any low end to speak of).

It is an internal hardware issue that makes it impossible for the Connect:Amp to pass a discrete LFE channel in the form of the .1 signal from a surround sound setup. It just physically is not built to do that - so no asking for it will solve the issue.

A new Connect:Amp model designed to pass a discrete signal would be required.

Hope this makes sense as Sonos has no way to add this ability to the current model.
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Lyricist I
April 11, 2014
I strongly encourage Sonos to release a firmware/software solution, that brings the SUB back online when used as a add-on for surround sound. Most Sonos users probably as I started of with the connect AMP and a high end relative expensive stereo/SUB setup from a previous setup. So the connect amp was the add-on not to give up the high end setup for everyday music listening. Now having to switch between 4.0 and connect amp regular function is already too annoying for movie watching, and furthermore this only gives a descent surround setup, because you lose the SUB in  surround mode. It is ridiculous, and this have to be improved sooner than later. 
Trending Lyricist I
April 29, 2014
Keep this thread alive, this would be an excellent new feature and really help those with their own highend subwoofers for a 5.1 system.

Another Idea would be to allow a connect amp to be used as the other channels from front left/right and center.
Trending Lyricist I
May 27, 2014
Any news on this?
Trending Lyricist I
June 10, 2014
Sonos recently added the ability to keep the AMP as the rear channel, but when playing normal music, it switches to either a full mode or ambient mode, the subwoofer output is STILL disabled despite being used in essentially a separate zone. I had to make my own program to go into the webpage and disable the amp as a rear channel, and configure as a group; and then when the input is selected back to TV, I have to re-setup in the webpage as the surrounds.

This is stupid, why is the subwoofer output STILL disabled when switching to full in the music playback section.

This should be trivial and I don't understand why the ball continues to be dropped!
Trending Lyricist I
June 23, 2014
nothin yet Sonos? How about an update? acknowledge that we're even here?
Contributor I
July 27, 2014
totally agreed - I'm in the same boat as Lars - this is preventing me from buying a playbar
Lyricist I
August 19, 2014
Is it not possible to just use a single CONNECT?
Group this with the playbar and connect left RCA to the subwoofer?
Or is it not possible to group a CONNECT together with the Playbar?

If not possible, this should not be a problem solving in software.
Then you could even send the correct subwoofer signal from the 5.1 signal.
Any low pass filter would be adjusted in the 3. party active subwoofer
Lyricist I
November 11, 2014
Sonos,  I just recently purchased the Playbar and like it a lot.  But I would like for you to give us a solution to allow the integration of a 3rd party SUB.  I already have a 12" Klipsch powered subwoofer that I would love to add on to the playbar.  Many of us already have a subwoofer that is either on par or better that the Sonos sub and do not want to folk out an additional $700 for a new one.  Do your fan base a favor and get us a solution for this problem.

Thanks  Scott
Trending Lyricist I
November 29, 2014
Hello Sonos? Any input on this discussion?
Contributor I
November 30, 2014
why not allow a dedicated connect to provide sub signal for a powered sub