No more SONOS for me

Is it me, or has this drifted waaaay off topic? 

Let’s here your thoughts on the volume issue raised in the OP to get it back on topic. Thanks for your service.

The OP question was answered and put to bed in the first few posts, and he isn't objecting to the subsequent more interesting conversation, so I suppose it is ok?!

Back in the day when I had wired surrounds, it was more of a distracting gimmick of them announcing themselves as a separate presence from time to time, than leaving you immersed in the centre of the action at least on a horizontal plane - if not the vertical thing that Atmos claims to also add. Perhaps things have changed since then, but most of the movies I watch do not need me to sit in the middle of what is happening in them.

If I had a bar based solution with surrounds, I would get myself more out of them by unbonding them and moving both to the front, in correct stereo positions as a separate stereo paired zone for just music play, that they would do better than what a bar does. Even if said surrounds were just Play 1/One units. Even with the sub left bonded to the bar.

Do not the lamps do a - I am here - thing rather than shed useful light? So I have read in reviews.

As to the Sub being redundant, that is down to the KEFs.

Another question. Amp here is Sonos Amp driving the KEF placed flanking the TV? Sub is Sonos Sub? And this is a Sonos supported configuration with no lip sync issues?

If so, once the phantom centre channel is got to work properly via correct KEF placement, the only thing missing from a full blown 5.1 is centre speaker sound level control.

I would then any day choose this over any bar based solution for TV, while getting superior sound for just music. Atmos at home is mostly a gimmick.

And Sonos will never faff around with the sound profile for this, because there is really no call to. Sonos won’t touch the Sonos Amp to change its profile and nothing else then needs to be changed in this set up by Sonos because it is right from day 1.

You keep saying that Atmos at home is a gimmick.  Have you ever actually heard Atmos at home?  Because in the proper room, i.e. flat 8-10 ft. ceiling, proper distance from soundbar, it is outstanding.  Which leads me to think you've never actually heard it, and are speaking from an assumption.

It is of absolutely no interest to me, what you are led to think.

So that would be a “Yes” on the fact you’ve never actually heard Atmos in the home and you are just making it up.  Thanks for the confirmation! 🤣

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OK let’s keep this on topic, please!

The lamps work like regular lamps. Useful light and automated with smart bulbs. I’m usually watching with my family, probably part of the reason why they make little difference in terms of sound. 
 

I am using a Sonos amp with Sonos sub. No lip sync issues. Kef speakers are placed appropriately. 
 

I have owned a Playbar and briefly an Arc but greatly prefer this set up. I’m sure Atmos is amazing for a lot of content, hopefully everyone with nerfed Arcs gets their sound back in the coming months/years 😂😂
 

My tv was recently broken (my kids spiked a volleyball into it, don’t get me started). I moved an older TV that had optical out only to power the Kefs(used a tiny SMSL digital amp)  No one noticed that the sub and surrounds were not working. I’m not saying there is no difference, but that in day to day use when we are going about our life no one noticed.