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Enthusiast I
May 12, 2024 5:12 PM UTC

Class Action Lawsuit re New USELESS App Class Action Lawsuit

Whomever is interested in joining a class action lawsuit

 

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Contributor I
May 16, 2024 8:59 PM UTC

Well it does seem like we are all in agreement that they messed up.

We are definitely talking about first world problems here. Hopefully they can work to push some of the updates out quicker so that this all blows over but I think for many of us, myself included, we will be looking for an exit strategy.

For better or for worse, maybe there's something wrong with some of us, but a lot of us on this forum have probably spent the equivalent of what it would cost to buy a new Toyota Camry or more on our sound systems. 

And for a lot of us our sound systems are such a big part of our lives (as cheesy as that sounds). So when something that we take for granted and have invested a lot of money in (as spoiled as we are) gets jacked up, we get riled up!

I think for the average Sonos user that just uses an arc or maybe a couple play ones or a era or whatever the new ones are This kind of thing isn't really bothering them too much because they are just using the speakers as basically almost a glorified portable speaker.

Yes regarding the Sonos stock I was definitely trying to poke a little fun with that. Definitely a bit snarky for sure. 

I think if Patrick Spence whoever is the CEO now would just come out and admit they messed up and that they're fixing it as fast as they can that would help calm a lot of our nerves. 

Again there are many of us including probably all of us on here that have invested many thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars in their home audio as stupid as that might be. My wife definitely thinks it's dumb. But the moral of the story is don't mess with our stuff or we take it personally!

I think a lot of us would calm the heck down if we could just roll back to the old app until the new app is a little more polished.

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Airgetlam
May 17, 2024 3:24 AM UTC

Since Sonos has never offered a way to do that in the years since they came on the market, I have to wonder if the effort to create that as an option is as much, or even more than having every coder full steam on adding back in the missing items. My guess, unsubstantiated in this release, is that there is data in the new release that isn’t in the old one. And certainly writing a new ‘backgrade’ process isn’t something I’d ever want to inflict on anyone on any of the code teams I’ve been associated with. 

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Bruce
Bumper
May 17, 2024 3:50 AM UTC

Since Sonos has never offered a way to do that in the years since they came on the market, I have to wonder if the effort to create that as an option is as much, or even more than having every coder full steam on adding back in the missing items. My guess, unsubstantiated in this release, is that there is data in the new release that isn’t in the old one. And certainly writing a new ‘backgrade’ process isn’t something I’d ever want to inflict on anyone on any of the code teams I’ve been associated with. 

Come on. They’ve offered the ability to roll back and forth between s1 and s2 for 4 years. 

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Airgetlam
May 17, 2024 5:22 AM UTC

That’s two different operating systems, and not going back from one version of the same operating system to another, previous version. 

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Bruce
Lyricist I
May 17, 2024 3:49 PM UTC

Whomever is interested in joining a class action lawsuit, kindly leave your name and email address.

For goodness sake, how ridiculous.  

Just for context, I have the new app and here is the what I can and can’t do:

Yes:  play music by voice (Sonos, Alexa)

Yes: access my locally stored music with the app

Yes: access my music services (inc Amazon) with the app

coming soon: alarms

coming soon: queue management.

Bug fixes will come along with the already promised (with dates given) updates.  The only grey area is when local library search will return.

For the most part I can use the app to do what I want albeit it being glitchy. 

You want to sue because you can’t wait a few weeks for parity with the old app??   What are your material losses, or have you suffered emotional trauma ?  Jeez you sound like the kind of person who would sue if your breakfast milk was sour.   The whole idea is ridiculous, but go ahead and waste your money.  

 

 

 

 

I have thousands of dollars of speakers that now barely work, can't change volume, play then don't then can't group then do but then won't. 

I'm not at the class action stage yet but it's not out of the question.   I'm not going to just go get some other new system so at some point they either fix this or buy back their useless speakers and sound bar from me. 

Nothing has changed on the speakers / amps / soundbars, their code / OS hasn’t changed, and therefor their inherent functionality has t changed.  The app is buggy, I don’t disagree, and there is no excuse for that.  But buggy software is followed by bug fixed software and Sonos have already given time lines for new releases, and parity, or something akin to that is promised.  
 

I in no way defend what has happened.  I too have several thousands of pounds invested.  But there is very little I can’t do with my kit now that I couldn’t do before.  Maybe others are having bigger issues.  But I wouldnt question my investment in my gear for the sake of waiting a few weeks.  It seems a strange failure of a persons character that their first thought would be to turn to litigation.  

Attacking the character of a complainant while defending sonos against other complainants and suggesting someone is a troll is rich. I've reported this as detrimental to community standards. People are not getting the support they deserve from sonos and you are defending sonos and talking down to them. It seems your complaint is only with other sonos users who are unhappy. 

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Bumper
May 17, 2024 4:01 PM UTC

That’s two different operating systems, and not going back from one version of the same operating system to another, previous version. 

Yeah should be way easier to roll back s2. But I get that they don’t give a flying * about customers so definitely aren’t going to do this. Also Ace headphones roll out in a couple of weeks so they need the app installed everywehere.

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May 17, 2024 4:04 PM UTC

Whomever is interested in joining a class action lawsuit, kindly leave your name and email address.

For goodness sake, how ridiculous.  

Just for context, I have the new app and here is the what I can and can’t do:

Yes:  play music by voice (Sonos, Alexa)

Yes: access my locally stored music with the app

Yes: access my music services (inc Amazon) with the app

coming soon: alarms

coming soon: queue management.

Bug fixes will come along with the already promised (with dates given) updates.  The only grey area is when local library search will return.

For the most part I can use the app to do what I want albeit it being glitchy. 

You want to sue because you can’t wait a few weeks for parity with the old app??   What are your material losses, or have you suffered emotional trauma ?  Jeez you sound like the kind of person who would sue if your breakfast milk was sour.   The whole idea is ridiculous, but go ahead and waste your money.  

 

 

 

 

I have thousands of dollars of speakers that now barely work, can't change volume, play then don't then can't group then do but then won't. 

I'm not at the class action stage yet but it's not out of the question.   I'm not going to just go get some other new system so at some point they either fix this or buy back their useless speakers and sound bar from me. 

Nothing has changed on the speakers / amps / soundbars, their code / OS hasn’t changed, and therefor their inherent functionality has t changed.  The app is buggy, I don’t disagree, and there is no excuse for that.  But buggy software is followed by bug fixed software and Sonos have already given time lines for new releases, and parity, or something akin to that is promised.  
 

I in no way defend what has happened.  I too have several thousands of pounds invested.  But there is very little I can’t do with my kit now that I couldn’t do before.  Maybe others are having bigger issues.  But I wouldnt question my investment in my gear for the sake of waiting a few weeks.  It seems a strange failure of a persons character that their first thought would be to turn to litigation.  

Attacking the character of a complainant while defending sonos against other complainants and suggesting someone is a troll is rich. I've reported this as detrimental to community standards. People are not getting the support they deserve from sonos and you are defending sonos and talking down to them. It seems your complaint is only with other sonos users who are unhappy. 

I didn’t defend Sonos, I specifically wrote ‘I in no way defend what has happened’ clearly indicating I am not defending Sonos — I even wrote that I agreed that the app was buggy.  And my ‘attack’ if that is what you want to call it is not against anyone who who complains — I would defend to the hilt everyone’s right to have their say.  My criticism is against anyone whose first thought when they encounter any hiccup in life is to think about litigation.  Maybe it’s a cultural thing — I dunno, either way I am entitled to that viewpoint and I have no qualms reiterating it.  As I said report away, but you should maybe reread that which you are reporting.   Oh, and welcome to the community. 

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Bumper
May 17, 2024 4:09 PM UTC

 

You clearly can’t read but report away.  I didn’t defend Sonos, I specifically wrote ‘I in no way defend what has happened’ clearly indicating I am not defending Sonos.  And my ‘attack’ if that is what you want to call it is not against anyone who who complains — I would defend to the hilt everyone’s right to have their say.  My criticism is against anyone’s whose first thought when they encounter any hiccup in life is to think about litigation.  Maybe it’s a culturall thing — I dunno, either way I am entitled to that viewpoint and I have no qualms reiterating it.   And I agreed with other’s criticism of the app being buggy.  As I said report away, but you should maybe reread that which you are reporting.  

Are you even familiar with the USA? Litigation is a way of life. When you encounter a hiccup you don’t look the other way like a Brit, you freaking sue the crap out of them because you aren’t going to take their crap.🤣

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Local Superstar
May 17, 2024 4:24 PM UTC

 

You clearly can’t read but report away.  I didn’t defend Sonos, I specifically wrote ‘I in no way defend what has happened’ clearly indicating I am not defending Sonos.  And my ‘attack’ if that is what you want to call it is not against anyone who who complains — I would defend to the hilt everyone’s right to have their say.  My criticism is against anyone’s whose first thought when they encounter any hiccup in life is to think about litigation.  Maybe it’s a culturall thing — I dunno, either way I am entitled to that viewpoint and I have no qualms reiterating it.   And I agreed with other’s criticism of the app being buggy.  As I said report away, but you should maybe reread that which you are reporting.  

Are you even familiar with the USA? Litigation is a way of life. When you encounter a hiccup you don’t look the other way like a Brit, you freaking sue the crap out of them because you aren’t going to take their crap.🤣

Yeah, come back in 10 years and tell us how it went 😅😊

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Enthusiast II
May 17, 2024 8:51 PM UTC

Whomever is interested in joining a class action lawsuit, kindly leave your name and email address.

For goodness sake, how ridiculous.  

Just for context, I have the new app and here is the what I can and can’t do:

Yes:  play music by voice (Sonos, Alexa)

Yes: access my locally stored music with the app

Yes: access my music services (inc Amazon) with the app

coming soon: alarms

coming soon: queue management.

Bug fixes will come along with the already promised (with dates given) updates.  The only grey area is when local library search will return.

For the most part I can use the app to do what I want albeit it being glitchy. 

You want to sue because you can’t wait a few weeks for parity with the old app??   What are your material losses, or have you suffered emotional trauma ?  Jeez you sound like the kind of person who would sue if your breakfast milk was sour.   The whole idea is ridiculous, but go ahead and waste your money.  

 

Guys, don’t waste your time arguing with people like this.

I’m here on these forums, once again, because I’ve discovered yet another feature missing from the new app.

Honestly, I was going to wait it out, but the cold response (or lack of response) from Sonos is very quickly making me less frustrated, and more angry. I am growing to hate this company. I won’t be buying more speakers from this company. Garbage.

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