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Contributor I
May 22, 2024
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RE: Lost music Library 5/22/2024

  • May 22, 2024
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After the horrendous recent update, which completely lost my local music library, I checked the Sonos update page (https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/the-new-sonos-app-and-future-feature-updates), and among the supposed (Allegedly)features available as of May 21 2024, it listed “

  • Improved Local Music Library playback of folders

Considering that I couldn't access my library at all,  I wondered what possible improvement there was, so I had an online chat with tech support. They seemed as though they had never heard of anyone having this problem, which was amazing to me as it is all over the forums and on the Internet, so I'm not alone. I submitted diagnostics as requested, and their response was  that it was due to a "legacy share" support link, and referred me to this Apple link:

 

How to disable SMB 1 or NetBIOS in macOS

Learn how to disable SMB 1 or NetBIOS to prevent failover.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102050

The page also mentions "This article is intended for enterprise and education system administrators”

 

Is Sonos kidding? Now I am really confused, and this is a terrifying page for a civilian as I wouldn't even know how to begin to implement this, not being a tech professional and worried I might it advertently make problems on my Mac, not to mention I wasn't sure that it would actually work.  I was told I could make a phone appointment for a remote session, but I am not even sure what to make of this.

Has anyone else had any experience with this since the disastrous update? If so, have you had any success with getting your local music library back? While I do some streaming, I mainly use my local music library, so I have been practically apoplectic with rage at the Sonos bait and switch, essentially turning my Sonos products into streaming only speakers.

 

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58 replies

Renowned Enthusiast II
June 2, 2024

This is so appalling. I've been playing music from my hard drive since getting my first Sonos not too long after they entered the market. I regret having committed to Sonos and no longer trust them.

I totaly agree. Sonos policy in upgrading the AP is horrible. 

After a hopelessly long wait, I finally got in touch. Then I am told that I should restart the entire system and install the app again. Then I realize that the rest of the SONOS users have the same problem:

  1. Can't find my system.
  2. Lost my music library
  3. Response times are incredibly long
  4. The layout of the app does not mean any improvement I want.

Sharpening! Immediately revert to the previous version and do not burden your loyal customers with rubbish that you have not quality assured.

Regarding the music library, I assume that you don't have to be an IT expert to be able to restore a function that I have had since the beginning.

 

MIlleMiglia… Yes. In my case I unistalled the malfunctioning new desktop app, reinstalled the S2 app and then followed kerz56’s post - with a helpful YouTube link - to reestablish my Music Libraries on both iMacs.

Note: Before following the steps in the video, go into the Sonos desktop controller app’s preferences and delete the path to the current music library.  After following the steps detailed the clip, add that library back in.  At least you’ll have desktop control over your music.  I still don’t have control of anything Sonos with my iPhone and, the Web App does not work either.  That app makes absolutely no sense to me as to why it was even created.

Lyricist III
June 5, 2024

Gotta say that after seething in solitude for weeks, after over a decade with Sonos, this issue caused me to join the forum and find this thread.  I feel better knowing I’m not alone.  I’ve gone through all of the emotions above…..betrayal, anguish, despair, rage etc.  Today I spent an hour on hold with support, finally hanging up after wasting a good part of the morning.  Then I tried to text, only to find no text support was available.  Glad I didn’t spend more, having read the above.  We are all shackled to a floating version of the Keystone Cops, and it is going down by the bow.  But now I know I am in good company.  So, thanks to all above for the pleasure of commiseration!

Enthusiast I
June 5, 2024

Gotta say that after seething in solitude for weeks, after over a decade with Sonos, this issue caused me to join the forum and find this thread.  I feel better knowing I’m not alone.  I’ve gone through all of the emotions above…..betrayal, anguish, despair, rage etc.  Today I spent an hour on hold with support, finally hanging up after wasting a good part of the morning.  Then I tried to text, only to find no text support was available.  Glad I didn’t spend more, having read the above.  We are all shackled to a floating version of the Keystone Cops, and it is going down by the bow.  But now I know I am in good company.  So, thanks to all above for the pleasure of commiseration!

You are more fortunate than I was. My Sonos help desk wait time was 75 minutes. After 30 minutes of fumbling around on the call I determined that the polite help desk lady did not know how to help me. Although she told me that there have been many calls on our topic it does not appear that she had received any training on what to do.   

Renowned Enthusiast II
June 5, 2024

FYI: I tried researching what SMB version Macs (old and new) utilize and have posted a request on the Apple Community Forums.  Also, I asked how one can change or install the necessary SMB version so that our NAS drives will function and be seen by the iPhone app.

I tried the Web App again today hoping that would finally be functional but, I couldn’t access any of the music whether I clicked on Folders or Artists.  I could see the Artist names when I selected that option but, could not open the individual folders to select albums or songs...etc.

I then drug a test folder into my main Apple Music folder (located in the Home folder) and then tried to add that into the Sonos Music Library Settings in order to circumvent the NAS (USB) drive issue but… I got the “unable to...” warning.

I then tried calling Support. 55 minute wait.

Lyricist III
June 6, 2024

Some good news…...I followed the video shown above by MIlleMiglia, and VOILA, I got my music to show up, including playlists!  In my case, I couldn’t use the “Music” folder as a target.  I had to use the “iTunes” folder to get playlists.  For me, over the decades that I have been a accumulating music, the path on Finder to my present collection is Music/iTunes/Music and the iTunes Music Library.xml file that contains playlists is still in the iTunes Folder.  Seeing those Playlists appear again in the Sonos “imported playlists” screen was like recovering a cherished heirloom after a fire.  Still don’t have them on the iOS devices, but for those I can use the Apple Music app with headphones.  Again, many thanks to the group.  

Enthusiast I
June 6, 2024

This is so appalling. I've been playing music from my hard drive since getting my first Sonos not too long after they entered the market. I regret having committed to Sonos and no longer trust them.

Just look at the Nasdaq stock listing for SONOS. It lost half it’s value. They are destroying the company’s reputation in order to milk money from streaming services. 

Enthusiast I
June 6, 2024

 

Sonos passing the buck and blaming my computer for not being able to access the local music library-(Of course, it just MIGHT have something to do with their update!) The advice I got from Sonos put the blame on my computer, but I got a different point of view elsewhere.

For what it's worth, I checked in with Apple support about the Sonos chat tech chap blaming my Mac for not being able to access my local music library due to"Legacy shares", and his recommendation that I make major changes on my Mac in order to fix the problem (How to disable SMB 1 or NetBIOS in macOS--link https://support.apple.com/en-us/102050 ) BTW this Apple support page  is for “enterprise and education system administrators”, NOT ordinary users). Does Sonos really put all the burden on their average user to figure out something like this? Some people just want to be able to use the product! And it used to work before their blasted update!

I didn't feel comfortable trying anything so complex without being certain that it wouldn't affect my Mac in a negative way,  and without any conviction it would actually fix my Sonos problem, which is something that Apple will not comment upon at all.

Let's just say that the Apple-specific recommendations the Sonos chap made for my Mac made no sense when I inquired about the ramifications for my Mac, and Apple support suggested I contact Sonos again as they "could not comment "on non-Apple products, and suggested I try to find someone at Sonos in tech support higher up with more expertise.

Sonos appears to be promising there will be an update in mid June regarding local music library playback, but I'll believe it when I see it. If they don't fix this, I will have to start looking for a different way to play my own music. I didn't get Sonos speakers just for streaming services. I want to listen to my own music, much of which is not available commercially.

What the heck is this advice I was given from the Sonos chat chap? This is so frustrating and galling.

 

 

You CAN add it back in but, it requires that you reinstall the S2 Controller on your desktop Mac(s). kerz56 posted a great Reddit link that contains a YouTube link that details perfectly what you need to do to restore what you had prior to the hapless update. Note: Once you resinstall the S2 controller, and prior to taking the steps detailed in the video, go into Sonos’ prefernces and delete the current Music Library.  Then, do what the video says and add that same library back into the controller Music Library tab. You should get it back. It worked for me on the two iMacs that I control our Sonos music with.  If you don’t want to hunt up kerz56’s forum post, here’s the YouTube link:

Good luck…

Brad

I followed the video instructions you posted from Reddit (see below) and IT WORKED!!!!! I got my entire library to show up on desktop IMac sonos and on my Ipads.  Thank you thank you!!!!

 

Renowned Enthusiast II
June 7, 2024

 

Sonos passing the buck and blaming my computer for not being able to access the local music library-(Of course, it just MIGHT have something to do with their update!) The advice I got from Sonos put the blame on my computer, but I got a different point of view elsewhere.

For what it's worth, I checked in with Apple support about the Sonos chat tech chap blaming my Mac for not being able to access my local music library due to"Legacy shares", and his recommendation that I make major changes on my Mac in order to fix the problem (How to disable SMB 1 or NetBIOS in macOS--link https://support.apple.com/en-us/102050 ) BTW this Apple support page  is for “enterprise and education system administrators”, NOT ordinary users). Does Sonos really put all the burden on their average user to figure out something like this? Some people just want to be able to use the product! And it used to work before their blasted update!

I didn't feel comfortable trying anything so complex without being certain that it wouldn't affect my Mac in a negative way,  and without any conviction it would actually fix my Sonos problem, which is something that Apple will not comment upon at all.

Let's just say that the Apple-specific recommendations the Sonos chap made for my Mac made no sense when I inquired about the ramifications for my Mac, and Apple support suggested I contact Sonos again as they "could not comment "on non-Apple products, and suggested I try to find someone at Sonos in tech support higher up with more expertise.

Sonos appears to be promising there will be an update in mid June regarding local music library playback, but I'll believe it when I see it. If they don't fix this, I will have to start looking for a different way to play my own music. I didn't get Sonos speakers just for streaming services. I want to listen to my own music, much of which is not available commercially.

What the heck is this advice I was given from the Sonos chat chap? This is so frustrating and galling.

 

 

You CAN add it back in but, it requires that you reinstall the S2 Controller on your desktop Mac(s). kerz56 posted a great Reddit link that contains a YouTube link that details perfectly what you need to do to restore what you had prior to the hapless update. Note: Once you resinstall the S2 controller, and prior to taking the steps detailed in the video, go into Sonos’ prefernces and delete the current Music Library.  Then, do what the video says and add that same library back into the controller Music Library tab. You should get it back. It worked for me on the two iMacs that I control our Sonos music with.  If you don’t want to hunt up kerz56’s forum post, here’s the YouTube link:

Good luck…

Brad

I followed the video instructions you posted from Reddit (see below) and IT WORKED!!!!! I got my entire library to show up on desktop IMac sonos and on my Ipads.  Thank you thank you!!!!

 

Alpenhorn.. You’re welcome but, I have to give the credit to kerz56 who posted it many pages back. He’s the one that I got that link from.  I’m glad you’re up and running.  I still can’t get anything to work via my iPhone. I tested putting a music library on my internal hard drive but, the desktop controller wouldn’t let me add it. Bizarre and disappointing. Again.

Lyricist III
June 7, 2024

And so here we are.  No communication from Sonos to its customers.  Nothing.  But I learned from Google today that an update has been issued to address some issues.  Just downloaded it.  Sadly it did not address the ability to access my music library.  So I still have a system that is useless for the purpose I purchased it for - to play my music from my hard drive, which is something I have always been able to do until the early May update.

Shame on you Sonos.  You obviously don’t give a stuff about the people who have purchased your products - many of us having spend thousands of dollars over the past few years. Don’t you think you have any commercial or ethical responsibility to ensure your product is fit for purpose?

And you can’t even be bothered to communicate with your customers other than to send promotional emails for new products like the headphones. 

I just don’t understand the disregard and arrogance.  Why would any company piss off its customers to the extent Sonos is doing at the moment?  It does not make any commercial sense unless the motive is to move away from your traditional buyer / customer to another model.  Maybe that’s the reason.

The way I feel at the moment I would not get another Sonos product even if you were giving it away for free.

End of rant.  I don’t suppose anyone from Sonos would read this or care about it anyway.

Regards,

Trevor

Renowned Enthusiast II
June 7, 2024

And so here we are.  No communication from Sonos to its customers.  Nothing.  But I learned from Google today that an update has been issued to address some issues.  Just downloaded it.  Sadly it did not address the ability to access my music library.  So I still have a system that is useless for the purpose I purchased it for - to play my music from my hard drive, which is something I have always been able to do until the early May update.

Shame on you Sonos.  You obviously don’t give a stuff about the people who have purchased your products - many of us having spend thousands of dollars over the past few years. Don’t you think you have any commercial or ethical responsibility to ensure your product is fit for purpose?

And you can’t even be bothered to communicate with your customers other than to send promotional emails for new products like the headphones. 

I just don’t understand the disregard and arrogance.  Why would any company piss off its customers to the extent Sonos is doing at the moment?  It does not make any commercial sense unless the motive is to move away from your traditional buyer / customer to another model.  Maybe that’s the reason.

The way I feel at the moment I would not get another Sonos product even if you were giving it away for free.

End of rant.  I don’t suppose anyone from Sonos would read this or care about it anyway.

Regards,

Trevor

Trevor… I’m in the same boat. I’ve been soliciting advice on this forum and on the Apple Community Forum.  Seems backasswards that the customers are scrambling to find a fix for an issue the seller created.  I/we have been trying to make this work but, there comes a point where we should expect to be made whole again. I’ve also tried to get the web app to work with no luck and, that goes for the iOS/iPhone app as well.  I was able to get my the S2 controller reinstalled on my iMacs but, I’d like control over my entire system from my phone back.  (On a related note, I have been given advice by a moderator in here that I appreciated even though I couldn’t resolve my issues.)