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Chromatic Producer I
May 17, 2024

Unfortunately Sonos does not care a less (so it appears) about existing customers only chasing new sales of headphones.

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Senior Virtuoso
May 17, 2024

It should return next month: 

 

Ken_Griffiths
May 17, 2024

It should return next month: 

That’s not what is actually mentioned in that link @nik9669a? Local music libraries that are supported are in the new App now. 

The new Sonos App no longer supports libraries that are shared using SMBv1 or http protocols. The old desktop controller App still supports those however.

This link explains what users  need to do if using a Windows PC to share their local library to upgrade the share to use SMBv2 (or higher)…

https://en.community.sonos.com/controllers%2Dand%2Dmusic%2Dservices%2D229131/adding%2Da%2Dwindows%2Dsmb%2Dshare%2Dstep%2Dby%2Dstep%2D6892060

I don’t use MacOS, but assume the steps will be similar ….and if using a NAS box, then I’d perhaps consult it’s user manual to see if it supports SMBv2 (or higher) and how to switch it to that version for your music library share in the NAS configuration pages.

The reason for stepping away from SMBv1 is partly explained here…

https://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/smb-protocol-explained-understanding-its-security-risks-and-best-practices

Hope that assists.

Chromatic Producer I
May 18, 2024

The only problem with that Ken is that many people use a cheap External Hard Drive or even USB stick (dependant on size of library) connected to their Routers most of which only allow SMBv1 connections. A dedicated NAS is therefore not necessary as once setup the files do not really change and the need for redundancy can be satisfied by having master copy of the External Hard Drive/USB Key.  I have been using this method since the days of CR100/200 and it has been completely safe. The recent App debacle encouraged me to return to S1 (you would be staggered by how well it works without glitches with local libraries) where I will remain as I do not want Cloud anything! Whenever I hear the word Cloud I immediately think "subscription" which I suppose for Sonos might be their ultimate aim for an income stream. 

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Ken_Griffiths
May 18, 2024

The only problem with that Ken is that many people use a cheap External Hard Drive or even USB stick (dependant on size of library) connected to their Routers most of which only allow SMBv1 connections. A dedicated NAS is therefore not necessary as once setup the files do not really change and the need for redundancy can be satisfied by having master copy of the External Hard Drive/USB Key.  I have been using this method since the days of CR100/200 and it has been completely safe. The recent App debacle encouraged me to return to S1 (you would be staggered by how well it works without glitches with local libraries) where I will remain as I do not want Cloud anything! Whenever I hear the word Cloud I immediately think "subscription" which I suppose for Sonos might be their ultimate aim for an income stream. 

In my own case, I was able to upgrade my NAS box here to use SMBv2, or v3, but otherwise I’d have been ordering a new NAS here. - it’s just companies like Microsoft, Apple etc. do not support the SMBv1/http sharing protocols, going forward, so I guess Sonos is doing the same with their new App. 

Technology never stands still and in the past I’ve chosen to replace working phones, tablets, VHS recorders, audio Tape players, and TV’s myself to try to keep up with various technology changes.

I assume newer routers, like the one you mention, will switch to using SMBv2 (or higher too) at some point.

Meanwhile you may find other ‘old’ Apps that can steam the SMBv1 library to your speakers, using AirPlay, Bluetooth or DLNA, perhaps? Although on iOS I’m finding many 3rd-party Apps are now using SMBv2.

May 18, 2024

 I have been using this method since the days of CR100/200 and it has been completely safe.

That is what Sonos was invented to do, and it still does this as good as, if not better than anyone out there, so I see no need to reinvent the wheel for this outcome, and even more so if the cloud now comes into the loop for this feature as well, needing the presence of the net for local NAS play to work. Which is actually a contradiction in terms if you think about it. 

PS: I meant that under S1, Sonos does this as well as anyone else and better than how most do this.

Ken_Griffiths
May 18, 2024

 I have been using this method since the days of CR100/200 and it has been completely safe.

That is what Sonos was invented to do, and it still does this as good as, if not better than anyone out there, so I see no need to reinvent the wheel for this outcome, and even more so if the cloud now comes into the loop for this feature as well, needing the presence of the net for local NAS play to work. Which is actually a contradiction in terms if you think about it. 

PS: I meant that under S1, Sonos does this as well as anyone else and better than how most do this.

Contrary to what some posts may say here in the community - I’ve personally tested this today and my local NAS library will happily play on Sonos without an internet connection, using the new Sonos App - it just needs a LAN subnet wired/wireless connection to stream from a NAS to any of the local Sonos products…

 

May 18, 2024

That is good news there for people moving forward with Sonos, where NAS play is concerned.

Why are you able to get this feature where many here are shouting about not being able to, anymore?! With or without a net connection?

PS: Ah I see, it is that SMB thing. So if that can be sorted by users with the NAS hardware that allows this sorting, the net connection is not needed for NAS play, I take it.

Bumper
May 18, 2024

That is good news there for people moving forward with Sonos, where NAS play is concerned.

Why are you able to get this feature where many here are shouting about not being able to, anymore?! With or without a net connection?

For me, the Library link disappears when there is no Internet. So while the music playing continues, there is no library access. This looks like a bug to me. The library link also disappears randomly at other times. 

May 18, 2024

For me, the Library link disappears when there is no Internet. So while the music playing continues, there is no library access. 

Which means that without internet access you are left playing music that you could start playing when there was internet access? That does not sound like a bug, but an indication that the internet is needed for control interventions.

Waters are all muddied just now, one has to wait till all of that mud settles to the bottom.