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rosswells127
Prodigy I
July 16, 2024
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Music Library Compilation Issue under new 16.3 Firmware

  • July 16, 2024
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Today I successfully updated to the latest 16.3 Firmware and Windows Desktop Controller.
I subsequently performed an “Update Music Library Now” from the 16.3 Windows Desktop Controller.
Now any Sonos Controller (including SonoPhone, SonoPad) show multiple entries for each compilation album when viewing Albums.
Just an example shown below...
 

Does anyone else have this issue?
Ross.

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Best answer by Corry P

Hi ​@rosswells127 et al

I have an update regarding this behaviour.

It is (now) expected behaviour that if you have a compilation album with no Album Artist metadata tagged on an S2 system, it will appear in the album list multiple times. To resolve this issue, please tag all tracks in the album with an Album Artist - if there is no single artist, please tag each track in the album with “Various Artists”. Once an album has a Album Artist tag, it will no longer appear as duplicates in the Album container list.

I hope this helps.

Edit: This thread was automatically closed due to inactivity. I have reopened it.

240 replies

Enthusiast II
December 24, 2024

Hi Everyone

I’ve been given some information which sheds new light on why we made the change that we did: the old way of sorting compilation albums occasionally resulted in unrelated albums showing as the same album, and this is obviously less than ideal. For example, think of two Unplugged or Greatest Hits albums - when by two different artists (or set of artists), they are clearly unrelated, but with the old sort method would sometimes show as the same album. Using the new compilation sorting method, these similarly-titled albums will no longer show as being the same album.

I hope this helps, and clarifies things a little.

Can you let the team know that they have moved from an “occasional problem” for a few to a “permanent problem” for a large group of users.

I and many others have suffered & continue to suffer the fragmented compilation album issue and yet I never once encountered the problem you describe above.  To my mind they chose a fix for a rare problem and created a worse and more obvious problem for a large group of users.   

Not the right choice in my opinion.

Perhaps they could roll back the update whilst they think of a better solution ? 

Corry P
Sonos Staff
December 24, 2024

Hi @Editor

Well, the issue is that before, there was no way to resolve the issue of albums being mistaken for or combined with other albums. There is a way for you to resolve what is happening now - to add Album Artists tags to your media. The tag is there, and in my mind, that is because it is felt that it should be used if needed. It is needed for compilation albums.

To put it another way, I think it very unlikely that it will be changed again.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Lyricist III
December 24, 2024

I have changed the tags and sometimes it fixes the problem. Other times it doesn’t. I am not a Sonos hobbyist. It is a faulty tool, the operation of which has been altered to make it nearly useless to me. This either needs to be fixed or Sonos needs to send refunds.

World-Class Superstar
December 24, 2024

I have changed the tags and sometimes it fixes the problem. Other times it doesn’t.

Which software tool did you use to change the relevant tags?

Corry P
Sonos Staff
December 24, 2024

Hi ​@HJ Bernstein 

I am sorry to hear that you are still having a problem, but such a description is not sufficient in detail enough for us to bring to the attention of the developers. All I can suggest is that you call in and demonstrate your issue so that it can be understood and documented.

Refunds are available to those products within the Money Back Guarantee period, and only to those users who bought direct from Sonos.com. You can start the process at www.sonos.com/mbg.

I hope this helps.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Lyricist III
December 24, 2024

I changed them manually. As I said, I am not a Sonos hobbyist and while I am coming to understand that my ITunes library can be changed, I haven’t found explanations/instructions that I would be confident following without fear of making things worse. There were also warnings from Cory earlier about waiting rather than making alternations that might not be compatible with whatever solution they came up. I do appreciate the folks on this thread. Hours on hold waiting in the Sonos queue are an experience I do not like repeating.  I don’t know if they do callbacks again, but for a while they didn’t. 

Lyricist III
December 24, 2024

The more I hear from Sonos, the angrier I get. I will call in when time allows.

Schlumpf
Virtuoso
December 24, 2024

Sorry, but omg… what do you think!? 
Sonos music library isn’t a magic trashcan to put in all your untagged music files from all over the net. 
You need well tagged files to get it work like a charm. 
If it worked somehow in the past without tagging such accurately, it might have been a lucky situation. 
But just shouting out loudly „it has to work“ without knowing or ignoring the needs for that imo is like a little kid stamping feet on the ground. 
Good luck finding that magic tool… 

Just my 2 cents…

Ralf
Lyricist III
December 24, 2024

None of it came from the net. It was all loaded into Itunes from CD’s. In the few cases where there was a problem, it was easily solved by changing the tags to match. I didn’t intend to buy a audio engineering project. It worked as planned. Now it doesn’t. We were told not retag, now we are told retagging is the only thing that will restore the compilation function. Bluesound works.

World-Class Superstar
December 24, 2024

I changed them manually. 

You might want to consider the freeware app Mp3tag. Works like a charm.