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Keith N
Sonos Staff
May 11, 2024

The New Sonos App and Future Feature Updates

Hey all, today we're sharing a message from our chief innovation officer, Nick Millington in the announcement here. Going forwards we will update that topic and we therefore close this one for further replies.

 



 

We set out to create a more personalized and effortless listening experience with the updated Sonos app. It was rebuilt from the ground up to ensure it could support future innovation in the years to come. For its initial rollout, we focused on how we could answer some of the most common requests from our customers, including increased reliability, performance, and faster access to music.


Many of you have shared valuable feedback on both the improvements that have made your experience better, as well as the areas where we fell short. We are listening to all of your comments and working to address them as quickly as possible. Over the coming weeks, we will reintroduce the below features, while fixing bugs and performance issues. Thank you for your engagement and we look forward to building upon this first step to create a listening experience that meets everyone’s needs.
 

 

Available now

 

To access these changes, check for updates in the iOS / Android app store to download the latest version of the Sonos app. Make sure your Sonos products are also up to date.


Last updated: Oct 28, 2024. See release notes.

The update has the following version numbers:

 

80.11.38 - iOS
80.11.32 - Android

 

In this update:

 

  • Support for the all-new Arc Ultra soundbar and Sub 4
  • Music library improvements*
  • Improvements to product setup
  • Improved performance when browsing content in Home and in Browse on Android
  • Improvements to multi-system support on iOS
  • Fixes for multiple settings including Bluetooth display, EQ, and Sub bonding on iOS
  • The ability to schedule System Updates on iOS
  • Continued Voiceover improvements on iOS

 

* Requires player update - 81.1-58074 (or higher)

 

 

You can also follow along with updates in this article: 

 

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Contributor I
July 26, 2024

I guess my message was not clear - I did all that back in April, and everything was working fine, until week before last when the latest update came along - and broke it again! The mechanism of setting up a share for the local drive and then adding that as if it were a network path, which was working before, now fails.

As I said above, it appears to work - the albums and artists and playlists are all listed - but now when you click on one of them, it fails. That happens whether I add the network path from the iOS app or the Mac app.

To be clear, my setup has the library on local drive on a Mac mini, Sonos Mac app running on that same machine, and adding it as local Music folder used to work, stopped working with the big update in April, then I did the workaround to pretend like it’s a network drive.

What changed week before last in the latest update that broke this?

What I understand changed, in the recent 16.3 firmware update, is that Sonos switched off the HTTP shares that used the ‘SonosLibraryService’ in the Windows/MacOS Desktop Controllers - you’re probably (still) using that type of share. Have you setup a ‘user’ for Sonos on your share, with the suggested ‘read only’ permissions and re-shared the folder via the new Sonos Controller App - entering the username and credentials of the user that you manually set on the shared library folder? If not, then that’s what you may still need to do.

I hope that assists because HTTP shared folders were removed in the 16.3 update by all accounts. Note aswell that SMBv1 shares are not available also - it must be SMBv2, or higher, that’s used. 

Also note that this is not just something Sonos have done, other companies like Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Apple etc. have got rid of SMBv1/HTTP shares because of the widely mentioned vulnerabilities, which you can perhaps see in an online search via Google etc.

I only know how to create an SMB share and those were the instructions I had followed (from Sonos) to put in the network shared folder, in the form //mymacmimi.local/Music (with all the appropriate share permissions set up for those folders). I have the buttons set under Options to use SMB. I don’t see anywhere to say SMB v2 vs v1. When I Google how to tell the Mac to use SMB v2, all the responses point to these sames Settings dialogs and say that it negotiates at connection time whether to use v1 or v2 or v3. Is there some other setting I’m missing that would explicitly guide it to use SMB v2?

I do appreciate your help, but as far as I can tell, I’ve already tried everything that you’ve suggested so far.

Ken_Griffiths
July 26, 2024

I only know how to create an SMB share and those were the instructions I had followed (from Sonos) to put in the network shared folder, in the form //mymacmimi.local/Music (with all the appropriate share permissions set up for those folders). I have the buttons set under Options to use SMB. I don’t see anywhere to say SMB v2 vs v1. When I Google how to tell the Mac to use SMB v2, all the responses point to these sames Settings dialogs and say that it negotiates at connection time whether to use v1 or v2 or v3. Is there some other setting I’m missing that would explicitly guide it to use SMB v2?

I do appreciate your help, but as far as I can tell, I’ve already tried everything that you’ve suggested so far.

I’m not familiar with MacOS, but what OS version are you using? - I use Windows mostly, but came across this…(not sure if it helps?)

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/320841/how-can-i-tell-what-version-of-smb-is-negotiated-when-i-connect-to-a-share-from#320842

Edit: Also see this link:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255234671?sortBy=rank

Lyricist II
July 26, 2024

I’m not going to ‘update’ anything until this forum is consistently reporting that things are working.  I may still bin my whole System and start again somewhere else.  
 

I’d still welcome any alternative suggestions!!

Avid Listener
July 26, 2024

Please do updates to improve the volume control. By using Apple TV remote control the high mid range, is still not as loud! Very disappointing when we just purchased our new full set of Arc, subs and Era 300. We are expecting better volumes sound than our previous LG soundbar that replaced. Appreciate it!

Contributor I
July 26, 2024

I only know how to create an SMB share and those were the instructions I had followed (from Sonos) to put in the network shared folder, in the form //mymacmimi.local/Music (with all the appropriate share permissions set up for those folders). I have the buttons set under Options to use SMB. I don’t see anywhere to say SMB v2 vs v1. When I Google how to tell the Mac to use SMB v2, all the responses point to these sames Settings dialogs and say that it negotiates at connection time whether to use v1 or v2 or v3. Is there some other setting I’m missing that would explicitly guide it to use SMB v2?

I do appreciate your help, but as far as I can tell, I’ve already tried everything that you’ve suggested so far.

I’m not familiar with MacOS, but what OS version are you using? - I use Windows mostly, but came across this…(not sure if it helps?)

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/320841/how-can-i-tell-what-version-of-smb-is-negotiated-when-i-connect-to-a-share-from#320842

Edit: Also see this link:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255234671?sortBy=rank

I’m on Sonoma 14.5. But this was all working before, with whatever SMB behavior it had. It was the update to the new firmware (16.3) and associated app updates from Sonos that broke a previously working setup with the library added as a network drive.

I’ve seen other replies from Sonos people saying the software is not working so needs a fix. Don’t think I want to hack around trying to force a different SMB behavior, when my system did not change, and it was working before.

But thanks for your help anyway!

Contributor I
July 26, 2024

I only know how to create an SMB share and those were the instructions I had followed (from Sonos) to put in the network shared folder, in the form //mymacmimi.local/Music (with all the appropriate share permissions set up for those folders). I have the buttons set under Options to use SMB. I don’t see anywhere to say SMB v2 vs v1. When I Google how to tell the Mac to use SMB v2, all the responses point to these sames Settings dialogs and say that it negotiates at connection time whether to use v1 or v2 or v3. Is there some other setting I’m missing that would explicitly guide it to use SMB v2?

I do appreciate your help, but as far as I can tell, I’ve already tried everything that you’ve suggested so far.

I’m not familiar with MacOS, but what OS version are you using? - I use Windows mostly, but came across this…(not sure if it helps?)

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/320841/how-can-i-tell-what-version-of-smb-is-negotiated-when-i-connect-to-a-share-from#320842

Edit: Also see this link:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255234671?sortBy=rank

I’m on Sonoma 14.5. But this was all working before, with whatever SMB behavior it had. It was the update to the new firmware (16.3) and associated app updates from Sonos that broke a previously working setup with the library added as a network drive.

I’ve seen other replies from Sonos people saying the software is not working so needs a fix. Don’t think I want to hack around trying to force a different SMB behavior, when my system did not change, and it was working before.

But thanks for your help anyway!


Shouldn’t Sonos just state what changes they made and what their intention is by making the modifications they made?
 

That would eliminate all this guess work.

 

Contributor I
July 26, 2024

I only know how to create an SMB share and those were the instructions I had followed (from Sonos) to put in the network shared folder, in the form //mymacmimi.local/Music (with all the appropriate share permissions set up for those folders). I have the buttons set under Options to use SMB. I don’t see anywhere to say SMB v2 vs v1. When I Google how to tell the Mac to use SMB v2, all the responses point to these sames Settings dialogs and say that it negotiates at connection time whether to use v1 or v2 or v3. Is there some other setting I’m missing that would explicitly guide it to use SMB v2?

I do appreciate your help, but as far as I can tell, I’ve already tried everything that you’ve suggested so far.

I’m not familiar with MacOS, but what OS version are you using? - I use Windows mostly, but came across this…(not sure if it helps?)

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/320841/how-can-i-tell-what-version-of-smb-is-negotiated-when-i-connect-to-a-share-from#320842

Edit: Also see this link:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255234671?sortBy=rank

I’m on Sonoma 14.5. But this was all working before, with whatever SMB behavior it had. It was the update to the new firmware (16.3) and associated app updates from Sonos that broke a previously working setup with the library added as a network drive.

I’ve seen other replies from Sonos people saying the software is not working so needs a fix. Don’t think I want to hack around trying to force a different SMB behavior, when my system did not change, and it was working before.

But thanks for your help anyway!


Shouldn’t Sonos just state what changes they made and what their intention is by making the modifications they made?
 

That would eliminate all this guess work.

 

Are there Sonos release notes for firmware updates? 

 

Lyricist III
July 27, 2024

When will the ability to play line in be added back??? It says improved compression of line in, but I can’t actually switch to a line in input???

I’m on version 80.04.04 of the new app and the Line In on my Connect at firmware version 16.2 is working. 

Contributor I
July 27, 2024

I see release notes for the app, that’s good, they’re terse but there. I didn’t see firmware release notes so I did a google search for Sonos firmware 16.3. I didn’t find release notes, but I did find other interesting community threads.