Request for feedback: Shuffle

Im seeing no difference in behaviour on the new 5.4 beta for windows.
Clicking the shuffle button doesn't re-arrange the queue in any way.

i am loading a Spotify playlist into the play queue.
I just downloaded the 5.4 beta and I don't see the queue in the shuffled order. I see the song title under next on the now playing screen, but the queue does not show that as next when I look there. This is for a queue loaded from Amazon. - Android Controller

Im seeing no difference in behaviour on the new 5.4 beta for windows.
Clicking the shuffle button doesn't re-arrange the queue in any way.

i am loading a Spotify playlist into the play queue.
Quick snapshot from my WIndows controller. Watch Title, Next Title and the queue order when i toggle the shuffle button.

Im seeing no difference in behaviour on the new 5.4 beta for windows.
Clicking the shuffle button doesn't re-arrange the queue in any way.

i am loading a Spotify playlist into the play queue.
I got mine working I had to download the release from the sonos beta site and then perform the update once I installed it on my phone. Now the queue matches the order of the songs. YAY!!

I apologize for not reading all prior comments to see if this is already addressed.

I would love to be able to have a full "Music Library" shuffle.  Searching for this, and for the shuffle feature in Sonos in general, is what brought me to this page.

My music library is too large for a single queue.  I know a lot of people wouldn't want repeated tracks until all have played, but for this feature I personally would not care, realizing there may be restrictions.  I have songs I've never listened to in my library and I just know I am never going to take the time to browse tens of thousands of tracks to find ones I've never heard to build a queue of hundreds I can play. Years ago shuffle is what introduced me to some of my still-favorites I never knew existed.  I like that. A lot.

I apologize for not reading all prior comments to see if this is already addressed.

I would love to be able to have a full "Music Library" shuffle.  Searching for this, and for the shuffle feature in Sonos in general, is what brought me to this page.

My music library is too large for a single queue.  I know a lot of people wouldn't want repeated tracks until all have played, but for this feature I personally would not care, realizing there may be restrictions.  I have songs I've never listened to in my library and I just know I am never going to take the time to browse tens of thousands of tracks to find ones I've never heard to build a queue of hundreds I can play. Years ago shuffle is what introduced me to some of my still-favorites I never knew existed.  I like that. A lot.

I see your point because I have the same issue. I don't know all the song titles in all the albums, so I'm missing out on loads of hidden gems. Playing the whole library at random and when something special turns up hit Add to Queue would be nice. Just for when I feel like it.

I would like to just put in my thoughts on the shuffle play mode that I have noticed.  I have a few play lists.  Some from my own music library on my home network and some from Spotify.  In both cases, I see the same thing happen....two different songs from the same artist will play back to back.  The songs can be close together in the queue (even one before/after the other) or they can be apart (i.e. added at different times).  It does not happen all the time, but I do notice it frequently.  I am not interested in the "Double Play" mode and would prefer that not happen.

I know that it is impossible to satisfy everyone's shuffle needs.  I think this is where options and settings would be quite useful.  But I do see this going overboard and making the software clunky.  To be honest, I have used so many different MP3 players over the decades.  I have not come across one that had a shuffle mode that was exactly what I wanted, so I understand if this does not happen...just wanted to put this out there.

I would like to be able to shuffle songs using a streaming music service in the Sonos app while bypassing the queue entirely. Right now, if I want to shuffle an rdio playlist, I need to add all the songs to the queue and then shuffle. Why can't I simply play the playlist in shuffle mode, skipping an extra step? Same with albums and artists. I would like to be able to shuffle all songs by an artist without first manually adding all of that artist's songs to the queue.

I would like to just put in my thoughts on the shuffle play mode that I have noticed.  I have a few play lists.  Some from my own music library on my home network and some from Spotify.  In both cases, I see the same thing happen....two different songs from the same artist will play back to back.  The songs can be close together in the queue (even one before/after the other) or they can be apart (i.e. added at different times).  It does not happen all the time, but I do notice it frequently.  I am not interested in the "Double Play" mode and would prefer that not happen.

I know that it is impossible to satisfy everyone's shuffle needs.  I think this is where options and settings would be quite useful.  But I do see this going overboard and making the software clunky.  To be honest, I have used so many different MP3 players over the decades.  I have not come across one that had a shuffle mode that was exactly what I wanted, so I understand if this does not happen...just wanted to put this out there.

I have noticed this also

So there we have it, folks. Version 5.4 has left Beta and what has happened with the Shuffle function? Right, as usual nothing at all besides a new look. Now one can see the upcoming queue which has the same issues as before because the algorithm in use hasn't changed a single bit. The only thing the new view does it rub more salt into the Shuffle-wound.

But then I suppose that's what it's all about at Sonos, don't listen to customers and when they moan give standard answers and do some design tweaks. Afterall, design is way more important then functionality.

Sorry for this rant people, I guess I'm a bit frustrated. Anyway, since all my music sits on a ReadyNAS I'm going to figure out if there's anotherway of playing it through my Sonos speakers, randomly of course.

In the mean time I scrapped my plans for a Sub and two Play 3's for DD 5.1, because it's surrogate anyway and I don't want yet another piece of equipment like a switch to control in between. No new Sonos hardware anymore. Disappointed in this company, that's what me is like.