Request for feedback: Shuffle

Ben - please don't be too hasty in "have the team deselect shuffle when the queue is cleared." Will this apply on when clearing the queue manually or also replacing the queue with new music ? I might well wish to replace the queue but have the new tracks still shuffle without having to press shuffle button again - especially since I have to listen to that first track again !! I think the best option is as Jason suggests which is both a 'shuffle and replace' option in addition to a straight 'replace without shuffle'

As I pointed out in my feedback on beta, I'd be happy for the currently playing track to continue if PLAYING but if I am paused, I'd like that track to be shuffled with the rest and a new track selected to play. Anyone else? I do also like the sound as add to playlist / replace playlist shuffle or add to playlist / replace playlist.

I have just submitted some beta feedback on one thing that really annoys me.  Here is the scenario.

1.  I create or load a playlist and hit shuffle.  (The visibility of this shuffle is now great btw).

2.  A while later, I want to switch to Radio so I hit pause on the queue and listen to radio.

3. When I want to go back to my shuffled playlist.  The playlist is still in the queue but it is not paused on the position I left it in.  So I end up having to guess where I was.  Which is a pain!!

Hope this can be addressed.

Ben,

I recently installed this beta version as my first participation in public beta.  I've been using SONOS for more than four years and sent to SONOS my first complaint about shuffle performance more than three years ago.  Personally, I'm pretty pleased with the shuffle enhancement.  Operation is not fully intuitive, but it's pretty good and intuitiveness is helped a lot by the visibility of the shuffled order in the queue.  Thank you for getting this done.

One further revision that I suggest is that functionality of the key to advance to the next track now needs to be changed to advance to the next track in the queue, regardless of whether it is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  Right now, when the "shuffle" mode is selected, when one attempts to advance to the next track, play skips to a pseudo-random location in the queue that looks like a residual response of the old shuffle program.  Seems to me it should now advance to the next track displayed in the queue, whether that is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  It looks like the old shuffle program feature is messing up the new shuffle feature.

I've also submitted this suggestion via your beta feedback page.

Ben,

I recently installed this beta version as my first participation in public beta.  I've been using SONOS for more than four years and sent to SONOS my first complaint about shuffle performance more than three years ago.  Personally, I'm pretty pleased with the shuffle enhancement.  Operation is not fully intuitive, but it's pretty good and intuitiveness is helped a lot by the visibility of the shuffled order in the queue.  Thank you for getting this done.

One further revision that I suggest is that functionality of the key to advance to the next track now needs to be changed to advance to the next track in the queue, regardless of whether it is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  Right now, when the "shuffle" mode is selected, when one attempts to advance to the next track, play skips to a pseudo-random location in the queue that looks like a residual response of the old shuffle program.  Seems to me it should now advance to the next track displayed in the queue, whether that is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  It looks like the old shuffle program feature is messing up the new shuffle feature.

I've also submitted this suggestion via your beta feedback page.


Thanks John! Will look into this.

Ben,

I recently installed this beta version as my first participation in public beta.  I've been using SONOS for more than four years and sent to SONOS my first complaint about shuffle performance more than three years ago.  Personally, I'm pretty pleased with the shuffle enhancement.  Operation is not fully intuitive, but it's pretty good and intuitiveness is helped a lot by the visibility of the shuffled order in the queue.  Thank you for getting this done.

One further revision that I suggest is that functionality of the key to advance to the next track now needs to be changed to advance to the next track in the queue, regardless of whether it is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  Right now, when the "shuffle" mode is selected, when one attempts to advance to the next track, play skips to a pseudo-random location in the queue that looks like a residual response of the old shuffle program.  Seems to me it should now advance to the next track displayed in the queue, whether that is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  It looks like the old shuffle program feature is messing up the new shuffle feature.

I've also submitted this suggestion via your beta feedback page.


Hi John,

I am on beta as well and can't reproduce this...?  I am using the Sonos Controller on Windows and when I click the advance track button it does just advance to the next track in the queue whether I am listening to shuffled list or not.

Stuart

Ben,

I recently installed this beta version as my first participation in public beta.  I've been using SONOS for more than four years and sent to SONOS my first complaint about shuffle performance more than three years ago.  Personally, I'm pretty pleased with the shuffle enhancement.  Operation is not fully intuitive, but it's pretty good and intuitiveness is helped a lot by the visibility of the shuffled order in the queue.  Thank you for getting this done.

One further revision that I suggest is that functionality of the key to advance to the next track now needs to be changed to advance to the next track in the queue, regardless of whether it is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  Right now, when the "shuffle" mode is selected, when one attempts to advance to the next track, play skips to a pseudo-random location in the queue that looks like a residual response of the old shuffle program.  Seems to me it should now advance to the next track displayed in the queue, whether that is a shuffled queue or a non-shuffled queue.  It looks like the old shuffle program feature is messing up the new shuffle feature.

I've also submitted this suggestion via your beta feedback page.


Stuart and Ben,

I have gone back again to check this, and for some reason I also cannot reproduce that response.  It seemIt seems to work now exactly as I suggested it should.  Maybe I was misinterpreting what I was seeing.  It seemIt seems to work now exactly as I suggested it should.  Sorry for my confusion, and thanks again for the improvement.

Im seeing no difference in behaviour on the new 5.4 beta for windows.
Clicking the shuffle button doesn't re-arrange the queue in any way.

i am loading a Spotify playlist into the play queue.

Im seeing no difference in behaviour on the new 5.4 beta for windows.
Clicking the shuffle button doesn't re-arrange the queue in any way.

i am loading a Spotify playlist into the play queue.
Hi Jay,

You have start the playback and then click on the shuffle button. You can immediately see the order changes.

Also, If you keep toggling the switch you can see how the sort order changes every time.

Let us know if this works for you.

Im seeing no difference in behaviour on the new 5.4 beta for windows.
Clicking the shuffle button doesn't re-arrange the queue in any way.

i am loading a Spotify playlist into the play queue.
Makes sense, but that doesn't happen for me i'm afraid.
Running Sonos Controller for Windows, Version 5.4, Build 29489160.

I added the Spotify playlist to the queue, pressed play and the queue was not shuffled. Each time I press the button the Next song changes but the queue remains static.