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ricardo99
ricardo99
Avid Contributor I
July 28, 2009

Are you happy with the 3.0 update?

  • July 28, 2009
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Quite simple, lets get some numbers on all the chatter thats flying around. In order that Sonos can gauge some meaningful feedback please reply to this thread with your supporting opinions for your choice.

EDIT: Now I've put my mobile phone down and can type with both hands I'll finish this post off properly.

I voted NO as I believe the perception that has been given and supported is that we, the users, will get our idea's turned into tweaks/new features/upgrades etc. through the Sound Idea's forum. Given that the fact that the last two updates have had very few changes to the system (i.e. Not new services) I fear that the focus on this may have drifted. I understand the current world economic situation means that luxury products suchs as Sonos will be put aside for essential purchase and that Sonos will and must look to increase it's user base to survive doesnt mean that we, as existing users cannot express our dissapointment at this shift. My hopes for the future are that the new controller, which I think is fantastic, will bring better and more wider ranging upgrades, the appearance of the more music feature gives me this hope.

This is nothing to do with it being free, not screwing my system up, or it continuing to do what it should, it is about perception and expectations.....and presently results are falling short of my expectations

There you go, sermon over.....

Are you happy with update 3.0?

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    justintime
    justintime
    Avid Contributor I
    July 31, 2009
    CR200 only. We will have to start getting used to this. Bummer.

    I thought there was supposed to be an expanded music information funciton on 3.0 but I can't seem to locate it...

    Anyone else see it.. what am I missing.

    Dave
    TJRL
    Renowned Enthusiast II
    July 31, 2009
    Originally Posted by justintime
    ANyone else notice the 3.0 update on the CR100 yields a less responsive Controller?!


    + 1 and please change my vote from "Indifferent" to "Not Happy at all" !!!
    7x CR100, 2x CR200, 5x SP100, 1x ZP80, 7x ZP100, 1x iPod Dock, 1x Boost, 4x Play 1, 3x Play 3, 2x Play 5, 1x PlayBar & 1x Sub.
    dirkster
    Contributor III
    July 31, 2009
    I can't answer this question, there are way too many interpretations;
    I might answer yes because the process works flawlessly.
    I Might answer no because it doesn't offer any new functionality.

    A better question would be: does this upgrade show you that Sonos listens to the requests on this forum.
    My answer would be NO!

    btw: i did buy the CR200, it works fine. No surprises, hopefully Sonos will spend the money they are making on it on new functionality!
    jgatie
    jgatie
    July 31, 2009

    A better question would be: does this upgrade show you that Sonos listens to the requests on this forum.
    My answer would be NO!



    People have been asking for the ability to search an artist's entire catalog by selecting a single track. They've also been looking for a way to see similar music from a track selection. Both of these have been implemented in Rhapsody, and to a lesser extent, in Napster and Last.FM, for both the iPhone and CR200. This may not apply to you, but that's 2 huge Sound Ideas inspired items that many people will find very useful.

    Not to mention people have been lamenting the "dated" CR100 for years now, and the clarion call for a touchscreen was long and loud before the iPhone app diminished it some. Whether you define it as "new functionality" or not, the CR200 was a major effort. Again, it may not apply to all, but it is certainly an effort by Sonos. For me, the update didn't give me more than I already have, but I'll never say it has nothing new. That would be as absurd as the guy dismissing the update that included the iPhone app and Radiotime as "useless" and "nothing new", just because he personally used a Blackberry and didn't listen to internet radio.
    dirkster
    Contributor III
    July 31, 2009
    People have been asking for the ability to search an artist's entire catalog by selecting a single track. They've also been looking for a way to see similar music from a track selection. Both of these have been implemented in Rhapsody, and to a lesser extent, in Napster and Last.FM, for both the iPhone and CR200. This may not apply to you, but that's 2 huge Sound Ideas inspired items that many people will find very useful.

    Indeed it doen't apply to me since I can't register to these services (non US)... (granted,this is not a sonos issue)

    Not to mention people have been lamenting the "dated" CR100 for years now, and the clarion call for a touchscreen was long and loud before the iPhone app diminished it some. Whether you define it as "new functionality" or not, the CR200 was a major effort.

    The CR200 does not apply to the question, however I do agree it was surely a major effort. I didn't expect anything less for a ($/€) 349 device!
    jgatie
    jgatie
    July 31, 2009
    The CR200 does not apply to the question, however I do agree it was surely a major effort. I didn't expect anything less for a ($/€) 349 device!

    This is the second time this has come up and I have to say I do not agree the CR200 does not apply to update 3.0. The main reason for 3.0 was a major hardware change - support for the CR200. Say 5000 man hours were required to change the software to include support for the CR200. That's 5000 man hours that were not used on other items.

    Now I can't be sure, but Sonos probably does not like developers sitting around doing nothing. So if the CR200 was not on the agenda, they would have been working on some other aspect of the system, possibly even some other Sound Idea items. The fact that some people derive "nothing useful" from update 3.0 may be directly due to the fact 3.0 had to support the CR200, thus all efforts concentrated on that one goal. Nothing is done in a vacuum, and a development team only has so many hours in a day (usually spending a lot more of them working than most people, but the limit is still only 24 ;)).
    davesanti
    Contributor III
    July 31, 2009
    CR200 only. We will have to start getting used to this. Bummer.

    Bummer...
    dirkster
    Contributor III
    July 31, 2009
    This is the second time this has come up and I have to say I do not agree the CR200 does not apply to update 3.0. The main reason for 3.0 was a major hardware change - support for the CR200. Say 5000 man hours were required to change the software to include support for the CR200. That's 5000 man hours that were not used on other items.

    Now I can't be sure, but Sonos probably does not like developers sitting around doing nothing. So if the CR200 was not on the agenda, they would have been working on some other aspect of the system, possibly even some other Sound Idea items. The fact that some people derive "nothing useful" from update 3.0 may be directly due to the fact 3.0 had to support the CR200, thus all efforts concentrated on that one goal. Nothing is done in a vacuum, and a development team only has so many hours in a day (usually spending a lot more of them working than most people, but the limit is still only 24 ;)).

    I appreciate your homble opinion, the poll however is about the upgrade. Unless you have more data to back up your statements you shouldn't bundle this poll with the CR200.
    jgatie
    jgatie
    July 31, 2009
    I appreciate your homble opinion, the poll however is about the upgrade. Unless you have more data to back up your statements you shouldn't bundle this poll with the CR200.

    Are you saying 3.0 update did not include support for the CR200 controller? Because I believe this proves it does:

    In addition to enabling the new features of the CR200, Sonos 3.0 allows the CR200 to work seamlessly with any existing Sonos Controllers, including the CR100, Sonos Controller for iPhone and Sonos Controller for Mac or PC.


    http://forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?t=13596

    Sounds to me like the primary function of 3.0 is enabling the CR200, followed by integrating CR200 operation with the other controllers.
    jerryrox
    Contributor III
    August 2, 2009
    Does anyone know if there were any bug fixes with 3.0?

    It seemed like when I went to 2.8, the sonos seemed to hang more often, whether it was internet radio, pandora or streaming from my music library. Since I have old hardware, is there any benefit to go to 3.0? The release notes are very generic.

    It would be great to see the engineering version of them that showed what was fixed and any know limitations. I understand they probably would not want to release notes that may sound like the product has problems but for techies like me, I would find it beneficial...
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